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At Las Vegas I examined an interesting German dropblock marked 7.62x51R. Anyone have any idea what that is? Perhaps the metric designation for .30-40 Krag?
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Might be for the good old 30-30wcf. Frank
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Perhaps a rimmed version of the 308/307 Winchester, reasoning from the 51mm length?
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The nearest factory round to that designation is the (late?) .307 Winchester, as Joe says. .30-40 would be longer, and I've never seen the metric designation actually marked on a rifle--the few continental rifles I've seen chambered for .30-40 used the inch/US terminology. All were Belgian. (Isn't the .30-30 metric designation 7.62x52R?). .307 wasn't around long enough for me to even have fired one!
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Winchester cartridges retained the .30 W.C.F. designation on their headstamps and advertising up until about 1946 after which they changed their nomenclature to .30-30. Interestingly, today it's called the .30-30 Winchester but it was Marlin & U.M.C. that gave it that designation. Over the years, it has been known as the: .30 WINCHESTER SMOKELESS .30 WINCHESTER .30 W.C.F. .30-6-100 .30 Marlin .30-30 MARLIN SMOKELESS .30-30 S. .30-30 W.C.F. .30-30 Win. .30 American (Federal case, small primer) DWM 543 (Germany) 7.62x51R (Europe) copied and pasted from here http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?p=52554
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Well, I live and I learn (beats the alternatives). Are the metric designations of all the "30-30 family" shown as 51mm case length? (Aren't they properly the ".38-50 family" assuming that the .38-50 preceded the .38-55?).
What is the metric designation of the .30-40 Krag? Might meet up with one some time, ya never know.
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mkbenenson, that's what I thought. Don't think the other .30-30 relatives are actually longer, just wonder why the difference in nomenclature. Answers probably lost in the mists of time....
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Found dimension for .22HP and .30-30 (but not .25-35) at accuratereloading.com, .22HP is 2.05"/52.07mm long, .30-30 is 2.039"/51.79mm.
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Found dimension for .22HP and .30-30 (but not .25-35) at accuratereloading.com, .22HP is 2.05"/52.07mm long, .30-30 is 2.039"/51.79mm.
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