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Hi there Kerryman, glad to see you're alive and still shooting. Hope there's pheasants galore. Wishing I was there with you.
What a crock of shite one hears from the right wing. Eight years with a certified bollocks hasn't dampened their enthusiasm for fascism. Very funny, actually.
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"If Obama does not get in, it is because he is a black man"

If you substitute Bill Cosby,as an example, for Obama I'd vote for him in a minute. It's not race that makes Obama undesireable to me, and I expect a great deal of others,it's his values and stand on issues that are important to me.
Obama is an extreme liberal(Marxist?) who wants to steal from me, the middle class, and "redistribute" my hard earned money to those who don't work. Perhaps because he's never done an honest days work in his life he doesn't appreciate how hard it is to earn an honest living. The 2nd Amendment issue aside; This and most of his "blabberspeak" is alien to everything I believe in and hopefully the majority of Americans will see this by next Tuesday.
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It is not the fact that Mr Obama is black, it is the fact that he is an IDIOT! I'm not a McCain lover, but I sure don't like this guy. I fear that I must vote for Mac, just to hope Obama does not get the job.

My friend that I considered a sharp fellow and a doctor said he is not voting. He is a businessman and his wife is a businesswomen and I would think has a lot at stake here. Ya, this is the USA and he has a right to be a useless bag of bones. Maybe he is just lazy like most democrats??? Peole like him who normally vote republican will definatly hurt mc cain. I think there is quite a few out there with this foolish attitude.

PS his wife wares the pants in the family and she'll be out and voting like a good American!!!

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Italiansxs, Timothy S,
You’ve got me wrong on this. I am a capitalist and at one stage of my career spent five years working on Wall Street. Economically I would be closer to McCain than Obama. Actually, the tax policies of Obama would be detrimental to my country (Ireland) and much better for the US economy. Read Obama’s proposals for the tax treatment of multinationals; you will see that he is very far from being a Marxist, which was ludicrously suggested above. Both McCain and Obama have assembled economic teams that may differ in the details of their plans, but each has its own approaches to managing the current crisis. So forget the economics hype, neither candidate has an advantage on that issue.
Excepting Palin, I could deal with a McCain presidency. He has made an admirable stand against torture and is likely to do something about that blot/stain on America called Guantanamo. He has been supportive of Ireland. Most importantly he is not and never has been in awe of George Bush. What most Americans fail to realise is the extent of damage and harm done to the image of and respect for your country by Bush and his advisors. McCain already has respect far above anything Bush ever had.
Unfortunately for the Republicans, McCain is too old, he looks even older due to ill-health and regrettably – for his supporters - he has picked a political version of Paris Hilton as a running mate. She already has set her sights elsewhere!
Obama will probably win because this election is about CHANGE. It is a help that he is outspending McCain ‘s advertising program by a big margin. The Americans I have kept in touch with all want change – they are sick of the present incumbent. The electorate is changing as it grows, its profile is changing as more blacks register, Obama is an opportunity to create more change and to show that leadership is not a job limited to members of a WASP country club reserved for those born into privilege or a skin tone. However, not all are ready to accept that amount of change.
Obama is the son of an immigrant, the son of a black Kenyan man and a white country girl from Kansas; he is the grandson of a war veteran and his grandmother came from a small village in Ireland. Thus he is the embodiment of the typically disjointed American tradition. He is a living symbol that these separate backgrounds, cultures and contradictions might possibly be reconciled. His election would help finally lay the ghost of slavery and bring America to the next level of social progress.
That is why I hope he will win; however, the divisions have become so clear that the result of this election – either way – will be very divisive and will further polarise the American population. The next one will be the one to watch!
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PS Nial - glad to see that you maintain your Irishness! How's that Rosson shooting?
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Bag since Nov.1: 1 fox, 1 woodcock, 10 pheasant, 1 mallard.

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I wouldn't vote for Bill Cosby, either. After he became popular and had money, he sure changed.

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kerryman,
you may think you know America but it is obious from your post,those "years on wall street" and "friends that want change"(BTW if asked would they even care that we have not been attacked sine 9/11??) you have NO CLUE.
One thing for sure,you do not know Obama and you are only a capitolist in words if you support him !

http://townhall.com/Columnists/BurtPrelutsky/2008/11/03/americas_last_will_and_testament


America's Last Will and Testament
by Burt Prelutsky


On the eve of the presidential election, I have a few last thoughts I’d like to share. First off, I keep hearing people say they don’t know Barack Obama. Oddly enough, I don’t think I’ve ever known a presidential candidate nearly so well. I may not have seen his birth certificate or his medical records, but I’ve certainly heard his words, his wife’s words and his pastor’s words, and I feel they’ve told me all I need to know about this demagogue.

I know that he believes in the Marxist principle of sharing the wealth, and I know that doesn’t refer to his own wealth, but to everybody else’s. I know that he shares Mrs. Obama’s lack of pride in America, and that, in his gut, he believes America is a racist nation.

I know he shares Rev. Wright’s hatred of white people. Because he depends on their votes, he keeps that belief under wraps, but it certainly comes through loud and clear in his books.

I know that the people he surrounds himself with, people like Wright, Father Pfleger, Louis Farrakhan, Tony Rezko and Bill Ayres, are vile. And the ones whom he is forced by circumstance to be allied with, people like Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and John Murtha, are not much better.

Because even his disciples realized that Sen. Obama can barely identify such places as Iraq, Syria, Israel and Afghanistan, on the map, he selected an old political hack like Joe Biden as his running mate. Joe Biden was supposed to supply the foreign affairs expertise Obama lacked. It reminds me of the days when I was working in TV and was trying to get comedies on the air. The problem was that the networks only wanted to produce pilots written by people who had experience producing sit coms. So, even though I had written for the likes of MASH, Bob Newhart, Family Ties, Mary Tyler Moore and Rhoda, they preferred being in business with people who had written and produced lousy sit coms. So it is with Joe Biden. The man has plenty of experience, but the problem is that he has always been wrong. Just one major example was his vote against Desert Storm. He would have gladly stood by while Saddam Hussein took over the oil fields of Kuwait. He never has bothered to explain his reasoning, but when it only takes about 200,000 votes to be a senator from Delaware, I guess all it takes to be elected are hair plugs and painted teeth.

It occurs to me that politicians continue, as a matter of P.R., to refer themselves as public servants. They are the only servants in the history of mankind to not only make more money than their masters, but are the ones who insist on giving all the orders.

Because we saw this election as the most important in our lifetime, my wife and I cast our absentee ballots several weeks ago. We wanted to be certain that our votes would count even if we died in the meantime. It’s nothing new. Heck, dead Democrats have been casting votes for years and, thanks to ACORN and complicit state governments, they still are. ACORN even registers cartoon characters. In one case, Barney Frank, there’s even an example of a cartoon character who managed to get elected to Congress.

When I suggest that this is the single most important election in my lifetime, it’s not because I hold John McCain in such high regard, but because I consider Barack Obama to be a menace to our freedom and our way of life. If McCain were to be elected, I assume I would be forced to repeat a mantra similar to the one I have relied on many times during the past eight years: “Better Bush than Gore, better Bush than Kerry.”

It astounds me that Democrats continue to paint Republicans as plutocrats when kazillionaires like Kennedy, Boxer, Feinstein, Schumer, Kerry, Clinton and even a guy named Rockefeller, sit in the Senate, and people like George Soros, Barbra Streisand, George Clooney, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and Oprah Winfrey, fill their coffers. I used to wonder why Soros, a bottom-feeder who made his fortune in the sleazy business of currency trading, would align himself with the far left wing of the Democratic party. Then, one day, it occurred to me that I used to describe John Howard Lawson, a hack screenwriter who once ran the Communist party in Hollywood, as a man who was born to run a gulag. I now believe that Soros sees himself as a major honcho in a new Soviet United States, a man in charge of the men who would run the gulags.

I just read that former Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger said that Sarah Palin is not only unqualified to become president on short notice, but that even after some time in office would make, at best, a barely adequate commander in chief. What a shame he wasn’t half as prescient when he was secretary of state. I wonder what evaluation he would give to President George H.W. Bush, the man under whom he served, the man who, by the way, was the only president since 1980 not to be re-elected to a second term.

Finally, it occurs to me that former Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers didn’t really stop planting bombs in the 1960s, after all. As a matter of fact, the biggest bomb he set off was the O-bomb in the mid-90s, when he hosted the kick-off to Barack Obama’s political campaign.


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If you believe that the source and ordure you quoted is authoritative and trustworthy, there is no point in arguing with you. Prelutsky does for US right-wing bigotry what Leni Riefenstahl did for Hitler, (‘cept she was more artistic and better looking!)
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Things are certainly looking dire for us real people. I am going to have a tough time living in our new and improved and changed U.S.S.A. ( United Socialist States of America). No wonder the rest of the world loves Obwanna. Now we can aspire to live as stupidly as they all do. Sorry to insult some of you guys, but I think the old adage 'misery loves company' applies here. Best hang on, for the ride is gonna be rough.
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Well the facts are there,plain and simple (like your distorted view of America)Obama has never shown to be on the side of gun owners and has in fact many times voted against us and been the director of a antigun orginzation.
Tell me when has OBAMA EVER VOTED FOR GUN OWNERS???
Obama by his own words wants to "spread the wealth" and is dissapointed that the Supreme court did not address it.
The blame for the current financial turmoil rest clearly on the dems, Clinton,Carter (The CRA) and those that gained from the fannie/freddie fallout (Obama is second in line for reciving donations for helping hide the Acorn led raid on banks forcing them to loan to renters)

Your views on our gun laws, from a country that does not have the second ammendment have no meaning for those of us who enjoy the freedoms of America.
You claim to have worked on Wall street yet forget the fact those in the towers perhaps some that you worked with died in a act of terrorism that you have not experienced.You should be ashamed Kerryman!

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I love Obama. I hope he does spread the wealth around, I've been waiting a long time for my share. I want everything that's coming to me. Did I mention that I love Obama? I really, really like Michelle, one foxy lady. Speaking of foxy ladies, the only reason McCain picked Sarah Palin was he was hoping to spend some quality time with her if he won. How do you like them apples? And all this from a registered Libertarian.
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