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I think the buck I shot with black powder last year at 4 yards was close enough for a spear. Someday you may try pulling your head out of the sand and expanding that rather limited amount of knowledge you posses. While your at you may look into finding some manners.

I understand!!!
Your actions are set up for rimmed rounds and those are two of the best. Steve, you're getting some excellent accuracy out of that 30-40 Krag your own reloads I'm sure!!

I think my manners are just fine...

I don't actually use a .30-30; I use .30-30 bullets in a .30-40 at .30-40ish speeds. Mainly because they are cheap and they work; at the slightly higher velocities (than a .30-30 factory load) they open up more reliably but at those moderate speeds they also still penetrate both sides of the critter. For some odd reason, I've never even owned a .30-30; don't know why. I don't like the Win '94 action much, but have seen plenty of '99s (which I do like) in that caliber....hmmmm, wonder if I could afford one? (Probably not.). My Hi-wall has its original Marbles tang rear, and I'm damned if I will mutilate an original Winchester with a scope mount. So when the front sight post needs to be as wide as the dovetail for me to get a sharp focus on it, I'll pass the gun on to a museum or something.

Why use "archaic" rimmed rounds? My Hi-wall was chambered for them; first smokeless factory sporter in the US. But even my Ruger #1s all end up chambered for rimmed rounds, except for a .250-3000. I'm a hunter, not a sniper. I get as close as I can--usually really close. Don't need a magnum, nor even a "hotshot" like the .250 most times. I could use my Martini .25-35 or my GP-100 for most of the deer and coyote shooting I do. To me a scope is a necessary evil brought on by my aging eyes. Don't need it for big things like deer (yet).

Guess I'm just a hopeless ballistic fundamentalist; hooked on "The Gospel According to Ned Roberts"! Many of the first generation of smokeless sporting cartridges have just the right combination of qualities for killing ordinary North American game at ordinary distances. And most of them are rimmed.

Mike, speaking of Ned Roberts, my late friend, rifle experimenter and Kentucky rifle authority T.J. Cooper, once gave me the Ned Roberts published reprint of F.W. Manns "The Bullet's Flight". I'm not much of a rifle guy, so it was a while before I leafed through the book. When breezing through it, a photograph fell out. It was a photo of NR on a deer stand in New England, New Hampshire I think. The note on the back of the photo was a personal note about (don't remember) from Ned to T.J. It was dated late forties I think. Murphy

The 30-40 Krag is a fine cartridge, I've owned and used the 30-40 Krag for many years. When I moved to Alaska I used a custom sporter 30-40 Krag with a Lyman Alaskan (2.5 power) in a G&H side mount, the rifle was also equipped with a Lyman 48 receiver sight. I used factory Remington 220 grain ammo and never felt I was under gunned, this rifle cleanly killed both Moose and Caribou. If I had not lost that rifle in a house fire I would have it today. I am building a Borchardt sporting (Zischang type) rifle and the caliber will be .30-40 Krag.

Neat! Can you post the picture, I'm sure others besides myself would like to see it.

The rifle I'm using for inspiration, the owner can tell you about it.

Thanks for posting the photos, Michael.

The rifle is a military Borchardt action modified by A O Zischang with his DST and a neat little sliding safety on the lever (right at the top front of the bow). Barrel is a light sporter in .25 - 35. Post of the Lyman tang sight is in one of my boxes of parts - this reminder will start the search for it.

Stock is also Zischang. Note the very fine checkering as well as his lines. Top quality throughout!

What a beautiful forearm in particular.

The checkering is exquisit as well, but I really love the shape of that forearm!

Brent
PS. You guys need a new thread.