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Originally Posted By: Lowell Glenthorne
I hope this is a bitter pill for Jim Legg - bad press is bad press.
He should know, cash is king and Uggie's ain't!
........Cash is King and Uggies ain't??????? What the heck does that mean???.........Denny Crane

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This post is almost as good as the one that went, "Taking It Like A Man" because I've got a small bore. Don't you think?...........Denny Crane

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Something my uncle used to tell me: "The more someone yells and the nastier they get, the more likely they are absolutely wrong." Mr. 22eley sure wrote some nasty stuff on his first post.

On the other hand, selling stuff over the internet takes a lot of trust and faith on both sides. The seller's caveats on some GunBroker items read like a mortgage contract. But being explicit in the transaction drives out ambiguity, which is always a good thing in business. As nice as it would be to do business with "gentleman's agreements", at some point one side or the other will dispute what exactly that agreement means and who is or is not a gentleman.

So, I'm somewhat sympathetic to both sides. BUT, Mr.22ely sounds like the folks that used to take huge advantage of LL Bean's return policy. Buy a set of beautiful hiking boots, go on a sheep hunt in Alaska, and then turn them in for a refund (as told to me at the Freeport store by a manager).


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Something my uncle used to tell me: "The more someone yells and the nastier they get, the more likely they are absolutely wrong." Mr. 22eley sure wrote some nasty stuff on his first post.

On the other hand, selling stuff over the internet takes a lot of trust and faith on both sides. The seller's caveats on some GunBroker items read like a mortgage contract. But being explicit in the transaction drives out ambiguity, which is always a good thing in business. As nice as it would be to do business with "gentleman's agreements", at some point one side or the other will dispute what exactly that agreement means and who is or is not a gentleman.

So, I'm somewhat sympathetic to both sides. BUT, Mr.22ely sounds like the folks that used to take huge advantage of LL Bean's return policy. Buy a set of beautiful hiking boots, go on a sheep hunt in Alaska, and then turn them in for a refund (as told to me at the Freeport store by a manager).


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Sorry,

Don't know why that posted twice...


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Useless bore Spanish doubles are notoriously hard to move.

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Why can't dude return gun with 26" barrels. For example, BSS with 26" tubes and Ugartechea 25 or 26-incher con Churchill rib have just one thing in common the barrels are SxS.

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Originally Posted By: Baron23
He should be able to return it, undamaged and unused, for any damn reason he wants. Otherwise it needs to be a 3 day inspection for dings in the wood, or a 3 day inspection for bluing, or a three day inspection for head space.

But what he got was a three day inspection, period, the purpose of which is to allow buyer to decide upon first hand inspection, whether he wants the gun...no matter if his reason is sound or trivial. If trivial, don't do business with him again (personally I agree with those who think the original poster's rant was ungentlemanly and coarse and that his reason should for return should have been obvious before shipping...but that does not change the issue).

I state again, I would not but a gun from a seller who offers an unmitigated three day inspection period and then objects to return on grounds not previously specified.

This ain't that hard and it doesn't matter how silly, trivial, or childish you think of the OP . Unused, undamaged in any way, buyer pays shipping/insur both ways...its a done deal...it should be able to go back for any reason.

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Ditto...I could not have said it better.

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I feel this is the whole problem with the right to return on 3 day inspection. I always took it to mean you could return it, if it was not as described. It was as described. I never accepted the idea, that someone had the chance to decide that they really didn't want to buy it after all or wished they had bought another gun. To me, this whole idea of returning it on the basis of "changed mind", is not fair to the whole system. The seller wasted effort in marketing the gun, other buyers lost their chance to buy it, the buyer got exactly what he bargained for. What is the problem? In my opinion, if you don't want to spend the money for a gun you bid on, you shouldn't be in the bidding. Maybe the terminolgy of 3 day inspection needs to be changed. My perception always meant to accept the condition as represented, not as a change of desire to own.

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Useless bore Spanish doubles are notoriously hard to move.

Sorry dude I gotta throw the BS flag on that one!

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