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#996 09/13/06 02:44 PM
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Rabbit -
I don't think its the longer stock (my new R-15 28 ga. measures right out to what my try-gun fitting with shooting session doped my measurement out to be - 14 3/4" w/ DTs.) In my case I think it the moment of inertia (MOI) syndrome - I don't shoot many lightweight smallbore guns.
My 28 ga. Citori Lightning at 28" and my 20 ga. Citori Superlight (same bbl. length) seem to travel smoothly thorugh the target arc. Likewise my Superposed 12 ga. Superlite at 26.5" bbls, but the additional weight is there because its a bigger gun physically. I think it the new (old), "starts quick, changes directions quick, then stops quick again" phenomena.
Sort of like global warming, which I wouldn't give a Tinkers' damn for theory-wise 10 years ago. Now I don't see any other logical explanation for it - rising sea levels, more hurricanes of increasing severity, etc. MOI, like global warming, is "here to stay" when adjusting to lighter guns in hand. I think I need about another 500 rounds through her before I render judgement. KBM

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"maybe I should start calling for the targets in French, no? brain-farting OT but I once hunted with a French ex-pat in VT, and he'd trained his dog in French. I could not stop thinking "Dang, that dog is smart, he speaks French!"

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I'm sure I missed my share of skeet target because of the fast start and faster stop with the lightweight 20 gauge but I also had frequent mismounts. Seemed like I had to think about keeping my fingers down low under the stock to avoid binding my wrist and missing the mount. Not having that problem with the Charlin.

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I spotted a Charlin at the Baltimore show last year or the year before, lost track of it, and was chastised by Ortolan when I couldn't locate the person carrying it. I wonder if Rabbit was the person trolling or maybe the ultimate purchaser? I had no idea that the purchase of Ortolan's new 28 gauge Darne came complete with French movies. Oh, it was on HBO! I do an annual review of The Shooting Party but subtitles on the French flick may help me to understand some of the dialogue that my tired ears can't pick up. I can't understand half of what is being said in The Shooting Party, only get enjoyment from the driven bird scenes. By the way, those hammerless guns are all boxlocks.

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Many of the phone calls I get are from excited folk who have "found" a 70s or 80s vintage Darne, produced during an era when the writers were almost unanimous in the declaration that short tubes is the best stuff since sliced bread, and how much should they pay (now that they already have payed) what grade is it, and what ammunition can it eat, and who can work on it, etc. They simply can't understand why I don't share their enthusism at their new, 25" barreled, 4 pound and change, 28 gauge, or, really, much, much, worse, 410 caliber gun. "Why (insert dumbassed writer from 1977 issue of Field and Stream magazine name here) wrote that short barrels were fine for a smallbore gun I'd use" or words to that effect.

I've often wondered if they get their dogs the same way. And what becomes of those hapless pups?

Still, I've no doubt I could sell every short barreled second hand Darne 28 that came this way, which, I don't. Somebody can shoot them well, but, I'd bet it might be someone built like my wife, 104 lbs and 5'5". or so, what used to be called "willowy", a term not heard much anymore since everyone is now fat, according to the 'gubament.

To put this all in very proper perspective for you, the last "film" we saw was "Chicken little". My wife really enjoys American cartoons, and what the little lady wants, she gets-with the possible exception of a really short barreled gun. Maybe she can't shoot them well, either. I'm not going to find that out after I cut the check. 'Y-all shouldn't, either.
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Just had a thought, on the global warming post-if I let my highball sit a bit too long while manning the 'grille (gotta make my contribution to same, you know!) when the ice melts, will my drink run over?
And, if those ocean levels are rising so dramatically, why are the great lakes down so dramatically?
Just wondering.
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Are you certain you're not from Missoura Ted. Your icecubes are displacing 7/8s of their own mass already and you probably don't pour such that the other eighth is above the rim so it will likely all fit. A lot of the meltwater which Mad Al is threatening us with is tied up in snow and ice on the rim of the tub. As long as it stays there, the ring in the tub won't go any higher. As for the Great Lakes subsiding, what's your theory?

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The conservative right religiously lam-baste the French for being anti-American. What's the fascination in owning these icons from a nation that hates us so?

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The conservative right is seldom correct about anything, Thorney.

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Yes, the icons and symbols of the anti-American Frenchies should be sent back to France, especially this icon of the french freedom hating mentality http://www.nps.gov/stli/

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