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I have a 1959 Union Armera / Grulla box lock M205E.

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I have 3 questions:
1. Is there any listing or information on Union Armera & Grulla models by year?
2. As I have tried to determine (for Insurance purposes - NOT Selling) the value of my gun It appears that a Grulla box lock is priced significantly less than a side lock, currently there is a Union Armera
box lock, 20 gauge for sale at William Larkin Moore & Sons for $2000.00 which is almost half the price of any Union Armera / Grulla gun listed on Guns International. Why?
3. Was the 205 or 206 the only box lock models Union Armera / Grulla made?

Any Information would be greatly appreciated.

While I am more familiar with the Grulla sidelocks as I think more of the sidelock models are around. If you found one at WLM close to your gun and it says 2000, I think that is about right. They know their guns well as they have been in the trade a longtime. You can put any price you want in a listing and maybe sell it at a high price. But 2000 is probably a fair value for that gun.

John
Quality Arms

An undated Union Armera catalog
https://www-armas-es.translate.goog...r_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

In the fifties, the Grulla was imported by a company named Dakin. Most Grulla guns of that period had Dakin markings because Grulla and Union Armera were not familiar names in the USA at that time. Yours is a beautiful example. Are you sure it is a 1959 gun? The catalog entries go up to Grade 214. The popular grade at that time was the Grade 215, a fully engraved sidelock that sold for $300.00 if I recall correctly. It was praised by Jack O'Connor. I assume it was a great high grade gun like the Grullas today, but I'm not sure. O'Connor, of course, also praised the Arizaga 28 gauge, which was a pretty rough gun.

thank you for the replies and the information.
I emailed Iñigo Usobiaga, Managing Director - Grulla Armas S.L. for any insight on the 205E model. Didn't get much information but Jose Luis Usobiaga answered that the gun was "handcrafted by our people" and proofed in 1959. Gun is NOT marked Dakin. Hooray the old catalog had the 205 pictured. Will probably insure it for $4500.00 since 12-gauge Grulla box locks are scarce.
I agree that WLM are a very reputable dealer and have been doing this for a long time & I would trust their pricing.

However you interpret my post, the gun in question is, as stated, a scarce or rare gun that appears to be of high quality.