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canvasback #644351 03/19/24 07:16 AM
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It may not be a good, inexpensive alternative to lead. It's own claims put it a bit off of bismuth? prof has a point, if it can retain bar form at an apparent red heat, thay are probably looking at the boutique rifle bullet market, rather than many inexpensive inexpensive little spheres?

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Originally Posted by craigd
A step ahead of you, I'll wave to you from over by the thing. You keep the ptail, Clapton wuz mo bettah, 4 the spelling teach.

Sounds good, I'll be in the center of the thing, will you be on the far right in the red cap like usual? wink See you there.


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Originally Posted by craigd
It may not be a good, inexpensive alternative to lead. It's own claims put it a bit off of bismuth? prof has a point, if it can retain bar form at an apparent red heat, thay are probably looking at the boutique rifle bullet market, rather than many inexpensive inexpensive little spheres?

First, if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. It may not be good. You are right. But it also may be good. You don’t know yet. I don’t know yet. But I’m certainly not going to crap on them or nit pick because they are trying.

Maybe it does work out only to be useful as a rifle bullet. And that would be a bad thing how? My original point stands.

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In regard to the red hot billets in the factory promo video, my first assumption was it was a billet of some other un kown material just to display the workings of the production facility???.... maybe I didn't watch it long enough but I didn't see any shot or bullet end product

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Originally Posted by CJ Dawe
In regard to the red hot billets in the factory promo video, my first assumption was it was a billet of some other un kown material just to display the workings of the production facility???.... maybe I didn't watch it long enough but I didn't see any shot or bullet end product

I had the same thought, but why show it in this context? In any event, I'm looking forward to seeing some final product. I wonder if someone in Britain has actually had their hands on this stuff. Maybe Diggory?

I wonder and hope that there are other entrepreneurs out there doing the same.


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Originally Posted by canvasback
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It may not be a good, inexpensive alternative to lead. It's own claims put it a bit off of bismuth? prof has a point, if it can retain bar form at an apparent red heat, thay are probably looking at the boutique rifle bullet market, rather than many inexpensive inexpensive little spheres?

First, if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. It may not be good. You are right. But it also may be good. You don’t know yet. I don’t know yet. But I’m certainly not going to crap on them or nit pick because they are trying.

Maybe it does work out only to be useful as a rifle bullet. And that would be a bad thing how? My original point stands.
No big deal cback, I never pooed on it. If we already have bismuth, that works in shotgun shells, here's hoping it can be maufactured more uniformly and inexpensively vs sell us on why the premium for maleability? In rifle bullets, I never said it would not be useful, but if it is perfectly what it is, the company laid out a chart of down grades from lead.

It seems more to be an alternative to steel, for the puposes of the nontoxic shot market, than lead, and we don't know if it will be inexpensive.

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It may not be a good, inexpensive alternative to lead. It's own claims put it a bit off of bismuth? prof has a point, if it can retain bar form at an apparent red heat, thay are probably looking at the boutique rifle bullet market, rather than many inexpensive inexpensive little spheres?

First, if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. It may not be good. You are right. But it also may be good. You don’t know yet. I don’t know yet. But I’m certainly not going to crap on them or nit pick because they are trying.

Maybe it does work out only to be useful as a rifle bullet. And that would be a bad thing how? My original point stands.
No big deal cback, I never pooed on it. If we already have bismuth, that works in shotgun shells, here's hoping it can be maufactured more uniformly and inexpensively vs sell us on why the premium for maleability? In rifle bullets, I never said it would not be useful, but if it is perfectly what it is, the company laid out a chart of down grades from lead.

It seems more to be an alternative to steel, for the puposes of the nontoxic shot market, than lead, and we don't know if it will be inexpensive.

My point Steve, isn’t that it’s a perfect substitute for lead. Or even a better bismuth. It’s that someone is spending creative effort and money in the non tox sector. This is a bad thing? Because it’s not perfect? F me! We should be celebrating this and hoping there are 20 more entities working away on the problem.


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You made the back of my head itchy, had to check twice, but no ponytail, whew. Don’t mind me, I am cautiously celebrating on the inside.

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Were you addressing me James? I'm good with it, the more product development the better. For my purposes, lead is still the best thing going, for others who have different needs, this stuff might be just the ticket.


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Were you addressing me James? I'm good with it….

It was just a typo that I was poking fun at. We’re all good with it, but maybe not enough to invest in the product. Cautious optimism, if they insert themselves into the practical middle of that niche market, they could do far worse than compete on price. Hmmmm, you aren’t skirting CO game laws out on sovereign ground, are you?

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