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#644274 03/18/24 08:18 AM
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Anyone know anything about this stuff? Is it for real?

https://www.hortonguns.com/?page_id...vC0hQpR7Lx8uEgdehzEH4Bx9dGP9YazIdQYnL9B8


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It's for real, how well it works, costs, etc I can not say. I'm still a lead guy, all the other options are a compromise I'm not willing to make unless forced. I don't hunt waterfowl and stick to places that me, my Holland and lead shot are welcome. I know some of you play different games, this just might be the ticket for your needs.


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I sure hope it's real. I'm no metallurgist, but there should seem to be a work-around for all this lead-based insanity. Hopefully this a good 1st step.

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The video seems odd. Red hot bars of something seems unlikely for something that soft. I did not see any shot.


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You might want to contact them, they are very responsive. I will be offering sleeving(of guns already in the UK, I'm not shipping them over for sleeving) through Horton's in the future.


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They’ve been talking about Hortonium for over a year. Last I read, they are looking for a manufacturer. They estimate the price to be a little less than bismuth.

Ken

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I wouldn't get too excited about this.
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I had never heard of it but if it is the same cost as bismuth, I am not sure as the advantage. They try to address this with all the testing concerning fracture but this seems to be a problem no one has reported. The rest of the discussion seems to center around a problem that has already been solved. Modern mono controlled expansion bullets have pretty much revolutionized the whole world of hunting to the extent that the entire killing power results relative to caliber have changed. With a price near bismuth you would end up with expensive old technology bullets. That is a flat no go.

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Mono-metal bullets have a place but they do not solve all problems and can certainly damage old rifles with thin tubes like vintage doubles, even newer double have been damaged by them.


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We need competition in the non lead marketplace.

We need innovation, state of the art alchemy, and manufacturing processes to take advantage of it.
The volumes have to be there.


I have taken to shooting Bismuth exclusively when traveling, and I run through about 1000 cartridges in the year.

Overall it’s a small expense compared to other things.


Out there doing it best I can.
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