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Any one tried these yet? I just bought a flat. The guy seems to be very nice and delivery was fast.
12 GA. ARMUSA 2.5" VINTAGE CLASSICO (1 OUNCE - 1170 FPS) #7.5 HUNTING SHOTSHELLS (.58 CENTS X ROUND) for sale
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About Us: Specializing in the Clay Target & Wing Shooting Industry. Licensed Firearms Dealer & Supplier of Ammunition For The Clay Target Shooter, Wing Shooter, Hunter, Collector and Outdoorsmen. Firearms Importer & Dealer / Importer Specializing in: Import and Export Services of Sporting Firearms for Personal Use, including Collectors and Dealers
12 GA. ARMUSA 2.5" VINTAGE CLASSICO (1 OUNCE - 1170 FPS) #7.5 HUNTING SHOTSHELLS (.58 CENTS X ROUND)

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12 GAUGE ARMUSA 2.5 INCH VINTAGE CLASSICO 28 (1 OUNCE - 1170 FEET X SECOND) #7.5 HUNTING / COMPETITION SHOTSHELLS

AS LOW AS 58 CENTS X ROUND (IN STOCK & FAST SHIPPING)

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Finally, it has arrived! A true 2 ½ Inch chambered (65 MM) shotshell designed for early American, British, European and other vintage guns, as well as those seeking a softer shooting 12 gauge load. This low pressure, 1170 feet per second shell is still plenty powerful to bring down feathered and furred game at medium to long distances, as it is loaded with a full 1 ounce of Armusa's top of the line, ultra-hard 6% antimony magnum shot. This is also a great choice for competition and clay target shooting, as the premium shot is the same as utilized in Armusa's Competition Series.

SPECIFICATIONS
Model: 2.5" VINTAGE CLASSICO 28 (Low Pressure)
Chamber Length / Hull: 2 ½ Inch (65MM) Low Brass Plastic Hull
Gauge: 12
Load/Weight: 28 Grams (1 OUNCE)
Velocity: 1170 Feet Per Second 3 Ft. from Muzzle
Shot Size: #7.5 (2.4 MM)
Shot Type: Triple Sorted, Extra Magnum Grade -> 6% ANTIMONY
Wad: Hunting / Competition Wad
Crimp: Best in Class Eight Point Crimp with Center Seal. Ensures even pressure and shot-to-shot consistency, while protecting the inside of the shell from the elements.
Making Premium Shotshells, It's What We Do
ARMUSA’S founder and 2-time Olympian Miguel Marina Aróstegui was among Spain’s most awarded clay target competitors, including winning countless international and world titles on the live bird circuit and competing in the ’68 and ’72 Summer Olympics.
His passion for producing quality ammunition for the serious competitor carries on, with his son, José Marina, who’s determined to continue the legacy. It's no wonder that the ARMUSA brand is highly esteemed in the world of competitive shotgun sports. That's a fact.
Today, we continue to offer the very best in quality and performance without compromise, BECAUSE IT’S WHAT WE DO.
Family-owned since 1960, ARMUSA has been supplying elite shooters and hunters with premium shotshells for more than 60 years. ARMUSA is one of the last independently owned manufacturers remaining in Europe.
Made in the heart of the Basque Country

LEAD WARNING: This product can expose you to a chemical such as LEAD that is known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm. For more information go to: P65Warnings.ca.gov. Discharging firearms in poorly ventilated areas, cleaning firearms, or handling ammunition may also expose you to LEAD. Have adequate ventilation at all times. Wash hands thoroughly after exposure.

Price: $0.58

Shotgun Gauge: 12 Gauge

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There was a guy in Texas who imported armusa I bought 16ga and 12 ga low pressure shells from him worked for me

Sounds interesting, but I looked through all of the information twice, and found no numbers for the pressures these loads generate. They say the shells are low pressure. But how low is low? 5500 psi, 7000psi, 9500 psi? All are low compared to SAAMI max.

We know that ammo manufacturers have to pressure test their shells to be in compliance with SAAMI or CIP standards. They chronograph velocity and share the results in actual numbers. So why is it such a big problem for them to share pressure data with their customers???

I've shot some of Armusa's 70mm loads in 12 and 28ga, and they.were excellent, and very clean. I'll give the 65mm loads a try. Thanks.

Any idea what low pressure is? Definitely considering these over RST at $20+ per box

You'll find on the internet < 8000 psi, without evidence as to where that number originated.

Possibly with this
Forest & Stream, November 24, 1894. “Gas Pressure or Bursting Strain”
https://books.google.com/books?id=19kwAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA459&lpg
The proof-house charge of the American Testing Institution for a 12-bore gun develops a gas pressure of over 18,000 lbs. to the square inch. It is the same strain to which finished guns are put abroad. No gun would stand such a strain for any length of time. About 10,000 lbs. may be considered of touching the safety limit, and for some guns even is hazardous.
A load giving about 8,000 lbs. pressure and less is better suited for the average gun and everyday use.

1 1/8 oz 3 Dram Bulk Smokeless loads at the turn-of-the-century did run < 8000 psi. Dense smokeless about 1000 psi higher.

1170 fps, $170 delivered to my door. The guy carries all styles of Armusa shells. He is very helpful getting the order done. I got one flat of the 2 1/2" shells and so far they seem to be great.

Spanish company. Official agent for Briley in Spain. That lends some measure of credibility.

$17.00/box. That's .$.68 a pop. Dang, that makes reloading look even better.

I bought a large load of Armusa loads about 20 years ago, including 2-1/2" 20s and 16s (no 12s). Out of that order I have shot mostly 28ga and like them. Got some without shot cups (intentionally) and most with shot cups. They shoot fine and kill doves as well as any other comparable lead loads I have used. Only other comment is the bores get a little dusty, but not an issue for me.