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Lloyd,
I’m pretty sure that as you sober up, the 2 1/2” 16 gauge will come to make far more practical sense than the 2” 12. The best part is you already own it. Guys quibbling over a half to three quarters of a pound on a hunting gun they use for a few months a year is ‘kinda funny in its own right, too.
Really? Didn’t eat your Wheaties today?
Many years ago, none other than Kirk Merrington told me Americans with a reloading press and an old English shotgun were a huge part of his success here in the states. Yes, we will get the guys here that say “never in 50 years have I done that”, but, you don’t have to look too far on the internet that Al Gore JR. invented to find sad stories of guys that have done just that.
Don’t be that guy.
Sounds like progress on that leg, to me. Looking forward to a few more LOWs experiences, do what the therapist tells you to do. That little restaurant in Roosevelt is calling our names.
Best,
Ted Leave it to Ted to be the wet dish rag on anything I might find interesting. Get what you want Lloyd. You seem to like things that are bit off the beaten track. If a 2x12 fits your boat, don't let Ted rain on your parade. After all, it will be you using it, not Ted.
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/qclHjMQ.jpg)
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After all of this navel-gazing, I'll likely have to try a 2-inch gun someday. The concept is just too-intriguing for me to ignore it forever. The one thing that might hold me at bay a little longer is the lack of longer barrels in these guns. To me, 28-inches would be perfection but you almost never see that length available. I've nothing against 26-inch guns except that I stuggle a bit with them (I do like to be able to hit things).
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If you find a nice one, jump on it, and we can help you come up with a load for it very easily. There is no reason to let ammo issues make you hesitate.
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After all of this navel-gazing, I'll likely have to try a 2-inch gun someday. The concept is just too-intriguing for me to ignore it forever. The one thing that might hold me at bay a little longer is the lack of longer barrels in these guns. To me, 28-inches would be perfection but you almost never see that length available. I've nothing against 26-inch guns except that I stuggle a bit with them (I do like to be able to hit things). Lloyd, To help you quest there is a 28” two inch gun on GI. A little high but in nice condition. 28 twoKen
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After all of this navel-gazing, I'll likely have to try a 2-inch gun someday. The concept is just too-intriguing for me to ignore it forever. The one thing that might hold me at bay a little longer is the lack of longer barrels in these guns. To me, 28-inches would be perfection but you almost never see that length available. I've nothing against 26-inch guns except that I stuggle a bit with them (I do like to be able to hit things). Lloyd, To help you quest there is a 28” two inch gun on GI. A little high but in nice condition. 28 twoKen That's a beauty.
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I owned a 2" 12 gauge for one season. I bought factory ammo, did some handloading and had a fine time until the novelty wore off. Even thought they are light weight, they are still as fat at the breech end as most 12 gauge guns. I just prefer smaller guns, starting with 16s. I had a ball in 2022 with a 28 gauge and I didn't feel handicapped with it on pheasant. This season (2023-24) I'm back to my 20 gauge until a Rizzini 16 gauge I ordered is delivered.
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Hope you got the Rizzini with 2 3/4” chambers….
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I owned a 2" 12 gauge for one season. I bought factory ammo, did some handloading and had a fine time until the novelty wore off. Even thought they are light weight, they are still as fat at the breech end as most 12 gauge guns. Across the breeches Greener FP 2.376" Cashmore Paragon 2.276" Merkel 8 2.269" Skimin and Wood 2.168"
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This a comparison between two H&H Royal actions. The 2” twelve is a smaller action action than the sixteen.
H&H Actions
12 gauge 2” built 1936
Water Table (WT) length 1.7615”
WT height 0.7820”
WT width 1.5390”
Action (knuckle to end of lock) 5.3425”
Height to fence from lock bottom 1.8675”
Firing pin distance 1.0290”
16 gauge 2 1/2” built 1910
WT length 1.9335”
WT height 0.8185”
WT width 1.7250””
Action (knuckle to end of lock) 5.4815”
Height to fence from lock bottom 1.9045”
Firing pin distance 0.9755”
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This a comparison between two H&H Royal actions. The 2” twelve is a smaller action action than the sixteen.
H&H Actions
12 gauge 2” built 1936
Water Table (WT) length 1.7615”
WT height 0.7820”
WT width 1.5390”
Action (knuckle to end of lock) 5.3425”
Height to fence from lock bottom 1.8675”
Firing pin distance 1.0290”
Ken S&W for comparison WT Length 1.634" WT Height 0.928" WT Width 1.454" Action 3.062" Firing pin separation 1.062" I know I would love to see pictures of your 2" gun. I've only seen pictures of one other. I would wager that very few have seen any such pictures. How much does your 2" weigh?
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