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Hello Ted,are you saying sleeved guns have a similar problem of the lump falling off? I’m saying I prefer my monoblocs to be just that. A single, integral, piece of steel. Best, Ted
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I don't think this is a design flaw but an execution fail hundreds of thousands of sxs have brazed lumps this one was done on a Monday with a hangover
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The Parker reproduction barrels are entirely brazed together, ribs, and all. I imagine the barrels sets were brazed in a controlled atmosphere furnace. I would guess this lump asy could be re-brazed, but would need fixturing. Not an easy task, for sure.
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I don't think this is a design flaw but an execution fail hundreds of thousands of sxs have brazed lumps this one was done on a Monday with a hangover Well, show me a photo of an integral monobloc that has failed. Then let’s talk design. Best, Ted
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We are talking about this parker fail.i did have a Boswell that the lump failed and I had a mono block I bought from a guy named Tom ondrus so I made sleeve tubes out of the Boswell barrels and made new barrels and fitted them so I know what you mean .it looks like a sleeved gun but is new barrels.. sorta
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Ted, it’s a given that a one piece monoblock is ultimately stronger (although I have seen some reports of tubes trying to go down range).
A sleeved gun, at least in the U.K. has to pass proof after being sleeved and it is practically unheard of for the lump to part company subsequently.
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Ted, it’s a given that a one piece monoblock is ultimately stronger (although I have seen some reports of tubes trying to go down range).
A sleeved gun, at least in the U.K. has to pass proof after being sleeved and it is practically unheard of for the lump to part company subsequently. I’m all about givens. Back when there existed a thriving market for new and used sporting guns in England, and Europe, something that does not exist today, the French proof houses rejected out of hand the notion of old guns being repaired with sleeving. Why? Best, Ted
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Ted, it’s a given that a one piece monoblock is ultimately stronger (although I have seen some reports of tubes trying to go down range).
A sleeved gun, at least in the U.K. has to pass proof after being sleeved and it is practically unheard of for the lump to part company subsequently. I’m all about givens. Back when there existed a thriving market for new and used sporting guns in England, and Europe, something that does not exist today, the French proof houses rejected out of hand the notion of old guns being repaired with sleeving. Why? Best, Ted So? They thought nothing of proofing guns that did not regulate. At all.
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Ted, it’s a given that a one piece monoblock is ultimately stronger (although I have seen some reports of tubes trying to go down range).
A sleeved gun, at least in the U.K. has to pass proof after being sleeved and it is practically unheard of for the lump to part company subsequently. I’m all about givens. Back when there existed a thriving market for new and used sporting guns in England, and Europe, something that does not exist today, the French proof houses rejected out of hand the notion of old guns being repaired with sleeving. Why? Best, Ted So? They thought nothing of proofing guns that did not regulate. At all. Gunman kindly explained the likely cause of your regulation problem. But, just like when you blew up Springfield number 220892, you didn’t listen. At all. Feel free to detail for us which proof houses test regulation. Best, Ted
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Ted, it’s a given that a one piece monoblock is ultimately stronger (although I have seen some reports of tubes trying to go down range).
A sleeved gun, at least in the U.K. has to pass proof after being sleeved and it is practically unheard of for the lump to part company subsequently. I’m all about givens. Back when there existed a thriving market for new and used sporting guns in England, and Europe, something that does not exist today, the French proof houses rejected out of hand the notion of old guns being repaired with sleeving. Why? Best, Ted So? They thought nothing of proofing guns that did not regulate. At all. Gunman kindly explained the likely cause of your regulation problem. But, just like when you blew up Springfield number 220892, you didn’t listen. At all. Feel free to detail for us which proof houses test regulation. Best, Ted Wrong, as usual, Ted. They didn't regulate because they were poorly made. Simple as that. No other excuse works, but keep tryin'.
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