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Have you tried with the gun cocked and uncocked?and moving the safe?

Remove the buttplate a then remove the drawbolt. Fraser used a drawbolt that the vertical action screws pass through. Don't ask me why they did it that way but they did.

Brilliant gunmaker! The "buttplate" was a small oval disc expertly matched into the checkered butt. Only when it caught the light just right did the oval outline show up (it’s much clearer now it has been removed and replaced). The only thing showing were two screw heads which I assumed were part of a “rough” stock reduction and then replacement done probably a 100 years ago. I’m getting the stock refinished to remove the obvious joint. Thanks again for everyone that tried to help and gunmaker for his expertise.

I learned something new,can you post pictures of the action sears etc.thanks Mark

I would love to know what a drawbolt looks like, in the context of British shotgun buttstock manufacturing.

This is a W&S action , This should be the breech pin . There is an unexplained screw on the trigger plate behind the triggers , to far forward for the hand pin .It looks as if the stock has been cracked , repaired and the trigger plate extended .
A suggestion is that you fire the gun , remove the sear springs and sears . I know this sounds odd but I have come cross some boxlocks that this is needed to to take the stock off .I have a feeling this may be one of them .

I'll post pictures of everything before reassembly.

IN Respect of my post . Yes there were some boxlocks that needed the sears removing before the wood could be taken off .However the trigger plate had to be removed first .
I apologise for any confusion . I can only put it down to not thinking it through properly before I posted .

You may want to contact Graham Mackinlay & Co www.gmackinlay.com in Glasgow. He helped with me with some info about dating a Charles Ingram SLE I aquired several years ago.

I have an interesting Ingram shotgun on the way, a single barrel trigger plate action. The gun is a mess but I bought it just to see how it works, I wonder how similar it may be to the Dickson round action single barrel rifle actions.