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It would be nice to find a set of barrels from a 2-barrel set that someone would be ok with parting with. However, I’ve heard they just won’t fit any old Dickson and fitting them can be a big task, at least that’s what Dan Morgan told me. He also told me good Dickson RB guns with lots of case color are only worth about $15,000 in todays market….that statement shocked me. If that’s true, I wouldn’t go overboard with a new set of barrels unless you want to keep her forever cuz it sounds like you’d never be able to recoup your money???
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so the gun was sold in Aug of 1888. In Shooting Sportsman awhile back Del Whitman describes relaying ribs. I am guessing having the barrels struck thinner and ribs relayed would be cheaper than anew set of barrels. You also might ask John Hosford if he would make a you a set of barrels. All of this is costly to remove 8 oz of weight.
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The gun is nice, but I would agree with others here and advise to start over. You could find a really nice original example for the cost of the new barrels + sale price of this one. Someone else has already done what you plan to do and rebarrelled a thin barrelled RA. Profit from their mistake and find that gun. Patience is key.
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It would be nice to find a set of barrels from a 2-barrel set that someone would be ok with parting with. However, I’ve heard they just won’t fit any old Dickson and fitting them can be a big task, at least that’s what Dan Morgan told me. He also told me good Dickson RB guns with lots of case color are only worth about $15,000 in todays market….that statement shocked me. If that’s true, I wouldn’t go overboard with a new set of barrels unless you want to keep her forever cuz it sounds like you’d never be able to recoup your money??? It is true. I do not know why anyone would buy a clunker today and expect to turn in to a silk purse by having new barrels built. Just look at this Dickson round action jewel at the current Holt's sale (27Nov2023) that has replacement chopper lump barrels with bores of .727"/ .728" and wall thickness of .032"/.031. Plus look at the stock--it could have a 3/4" leather covered recoil pad on it and make it more than 15 inches LOP. Dan Morgan is straight on about the price range of complete round bodies--even though guns by Scot makers are in high vogue today. Look at the estimated auction hammer price of this gun. Even if the gun brought £2,000.00 more and you added buyers premium and $1,500.00 to get it here the price for a complete gun with like new chopper lump barrels would only be $13,600.00 (£8,000.00 x 1.25 premium x 1.21 exchange rate + $1.500.00 = $13,600.00 ) One of my grouse shooting friends has purchased 4 spectacular guns( Hollands, A.A. Brown and others) from the UK in the last 2 years with Dan Morgan bringing them in for him and the cost was less than $1.500.00 per gun. Novices think it cost an arm and leg to import guns but they are wrong. I decided today to ask my colleague friend gunmaker in the UK what a new set of chopper lump barrels cost to be made (he has 40 years in the trade as a gunmaker starting at Holland & Holland and later working for others such as Purdey, and Westley Richards, even building for Peter Nelson). What I learned is that Pudey's currently charge £29,000.00 for a set of barrels. Therefore he believes that a set of barrels from a UK barrel maker will cost $20,000.00 made and fitted. However there are only 2-3 barrel makers and you can count on the wait being years. https://www.holtsauctioneers.com/as...++1400+&refno=++206599&saletype=
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The only piece of advice my gunsmith ever gives on prospective purchases is, "buy the barrels, everything else can be fixed."
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I'd like to see a good example with lots of case color for $15,000 and good barrels.
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Me too!! But, that’s what Dan Morgan said…
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Sidelock
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That one has surely been redone.
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Yes re-done. I had it inspected by a former H&H barrel man before it went to auction, he suggested that I run not walk away from that one. On the bright side, you buy it you keep it, no inspections with CMSC.
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