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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
It's the price of cheap food for Americans. People who bich about food prices should have to shop for their groceries in other countries where there are no "subsidies". Without the current "subsidies" many farmers would go broke, go out of business, their farmland would be sold, and corporate farms would likely buy up the land and, with drastically fewer farms (of much larger size) growing your food, they could likely reach the size necessary to manipulate production in order to control/manipulate the markets. This would bring extreme prices for food, or shortages of the same. Is that what you want in place of piecemeal, partial price protection for farmers? Because, that's the alternative.

Another relevant point .......... when a unilateral embargo of American agricultural commodities can be used by the Feds to bring another nation to it's knees, and the commodities market crashes for farmers who grow/own those commodities, should not that same government provide something in return to the farmers, such as price protections? This has been done twice in my lifetime of farming, and the markets crashed causing thousands of farms to go broke. When commodity prices are good there are no PLC "subsidies" paid out. No one mentions that though, even though that's the price of a stable, reasonably priced food supply.

Next time you bich about "subsidies" don't do it with your mouth full.

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Upon a reluctant lifting of ignore on his turdpile, I see Lonesome is still looking for attention with his semi-cute disgusting innuendo. The sun never shines in Day-twa, wherever the hell that is. Some things never change...
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Originally Posted by John Roberts
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Merely pointing out how full of shit you, Stan, Ted et al are John.


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Originally Posted by lonesome roads
Merely pointing out how full of shit you, Stan, Ted et al are John. Merely pointing out how full of shit you, Stan, Ted et al are John.


At which you continually fail. Small wonder that you're lonesome. Losers are often that.


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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by lonesome roads
Merely pointing out how full of shit you, Stan, Ted et al are John. Merely pointing out how full of shit you, Stan, Ted et al are John.


At which you continually fail. Small wonder that you're lonesome. Losers are often that.

Pricing and Understanding Farming Subsidies

Unproductive socialism is most obnoxious in the agricultural industry. Farming subsidies come predominantly from the Farm Bill, a Congress handout that equates to $428 billion in aid for the 2019-2023 period. Every five or six years a new bill gets passed. It’s a lot like the Soviet Union’s old five-year plans, the dominant force driving Stalin’s socialist industry policy.

As a result of these obscene redistribution policies, 39% of American net farm income in 2020 came from government handouts. To make a conservative estimate at the total price, adding the pro-rated farm bill assistance to special 2020 relief puts total farming subsidies for last year at $129.5 billion. That is socialism. There are no two ways around it. The free market approach would be to eliminate the subsidies altogether, and let the farms compete on their own.

[from the Brown political review]

Keep stuffing your pockets with that socialist Yankee money, Stan.


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You better get a lot better at "spinning" the facts if you want to be a player in this discussion. You either don't care what the truth is or you hope I don't know what it is.

Here it is. The breakdown on how much Farm Bill money goes to support our cheap food. The blue part of the pie is for welfare "food stamp" programs. About another 7% goes to fund CRP programs that non-farmer hunters rave over. Most of the rest goes to help keep ingrates like you, and even those DO who understand, have cheap food.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/farm-economy/farm-commodity-policy/farm-bill-spending/

"The free market approach would be to eliminate the subsidies altogether, and let the farms compete on their own."

Right. Competing with other farms is not a problem. I'd welcome that. We'd ALL welcome that. What we SHOULDN''T have to compete with is the government, when they decide to use commodities as a political tool against other countries. Ya' know ....... (unilateral) em-bar-goes?


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