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And skeet was low gun, plastic wads were not created yet, and shot was a good bit softer, roll crimps and over shot wads were the norm.

In the Navy I shot quite a bit of International Skeet with plain old issue Remington Model 1100 Skeet Guns. Low gun, delayed pull, faster birds, didn't need any more choke than Remington SKEET.

Fortunately the Win 21’s were blessed with an infallible single selective trigger.
Flick the switch.
Shoot out goers with the WS2 barrel and incomers with the WS1.

As you look down at your barrels, true Skeet In / Skeet Out
Problem solved.

Researcher
Thank you
REALLY brings back memories long past

Sounds like fun. The only thing I remember doing in the Navy was painting.....more painting ... and the only time I got to shoot anything was when they let us shoot those old worn out .45s off of the stern at water swells and I couldn't hit anything with those old pieces of worn out junk.

Researcher, maybe some Model 32 Remingtons had only SKEET chokes, but my rather late, 1938, Model 32 has barrels marked SKEET IN and SKEET OUT just like Parker skeet guns of the same period.

The first year, 1934, Remington catalogued the Model 32 Skeet Gun it was listed as "Both barrels Improved Cylinder." I examined such a gun at D.J.'s Sport & Pawn a few years ago with a serial number in the 14xx range. As hard as I tried, it just didn't fit me. Every time I threw it to my shoulder, I was looking at the side of the barrels not down the rib. By the 1935 catalog it was "Both barrels Remington Special Skeet Boring." which it remained through the 1942 catalog.

The first time I went to the skeet range at North Island Naval Air Station a Chief that was shooting saw my officer uniform and snatched me up to be the officer on the ComNavAirPac Skeet & Trap Team. That lead to meeting Al Buntrock, retired Chief, and champion skeet shooter, and so this twig was bent. Only thing I ever did with the Model 1100 Trap Gun I was issued was use the trap barrel on the skeet gun to shoot ducks on the marsh at Camp Pendleton.

I'm sure steel shot can be shot out of a M21 without adverse effects provided you don't have chokes tighter than modified. But, I have no plans to find out with my nearly 90 year old M21.

You need to have a bore gauge to understand the WS1 choking. Externally, the barrels are the same for both WS1 and WS2.
The WS1 choking does make the barrel walls thinner for a short distance---its a matter of personal opinion whether this is significant or not.

I just checked a major web site offering guns for sale and had a quick look at every M21 skeet gun---only one M21 had WS1/WS1 choking. So I have answered by own question---this choke combination is uncommon---why shooters chose WS1/WS2 vs WS1/WS1 is open for debate.