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H&H`s Special Pigeon Gun #623602 12/15/22 02:39 PM
Joined: May 2013 Posts: 221 Likes: 44 Robertovich OP Sidelock
OP Robertovich Sidelock Joined: May 2013 Posts: 221 Likes: 44	H&H`s Special Pigeon Gun inside. https://wp.me/p461yQ-5b2 Please use Google Translate.

Re: H&H`s Special Pigeon Gun Robertovich #623625 12/15/22 10:04 PM
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Kip Sidelock Joined: Oct 2022 Posts: 53 Likes: 19 Idaho	Seems a little light for a pigeon gun at just over 7 lb, doesn't it?

Re: H&H`s Special Pigeon Gun Robertovich #623629 12/15/22 11:24 PM
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limapapa Sidelock Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 137 Likes: 24 Colorado	Too bad he only got to use them for a few years before the revolution. Wonder how he fared. Not exactly a proletariat kind of guy.

Re: H&H`s Special Pigeon Gun Kip #623633 12/16/22 03:07 AM
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OP Robertovich Sidelock Joined: May 2013 Posts: 221 Likes: 44	Originally Posted by Kip Seems a little light for a pigeon gun at just over 7 lb, doesn't it? According to the H&H catalog, the weight of the Special Pigeon Gun ranged from 7 and 1/4 to 7 and 1/2 pounds (3.29 to 3.4 kg). The actual weight of this gun is 3.27 kg. Last edited by Robertovich; 12/16/22 04:05 AM.

Re: H&H`s Special Pigeon Gun Robertovich #623649 12/16/22 12:20 PM
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David Williamson Sidelock Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,733 Likes: 52 Eastern Pa	Robertovich thanks for the link to a very interesting read to a very elegant gun. David

Re: H&H`s Special Pigeon Gun David Williamson #623678 12/17/22 12:42 AM
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OP Robertovich Sidelock Joined: May 2013 Posts: 221 Likes: 44	Originally Posted by David Williamson Robertovich thanks for the link to a very interesting read to a very elegant gun. My pleasure. I hope the translation quality of Google Translate will improve over time.

Re: H&H`s Special Pigeon Gun Robertovich #623681 12/17/22 10:35 AM
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eightbore Sidelock Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,128 Likes: 198 Maryland	Guns for competitive pigeon shooting in Europe were commonly made light, for whatever reason. European pigeon shooters were accustomed to heavy recoil, heavy loads in light guns.

Re: H&H`s Special Pigeon Gun Robertovich #623682 12/17/22 11:16 AM
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Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,423 Likes: 314 AZ but dreaming of KS	Yes, thank you Igor. A brief video from San Remo in 1937 gives some indication of the recoil from the pigeon loads of the era; 1 1/4 oz 3 1/4 Dr.Eq. Lots more here http://www.trapshooters.com/threads/vintage-live-action-trap-and-live-bird-shooting.514889/ https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: H&H`s Special Pigeon Gun eightbore #623683 12/17/22 11:19 AM
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OP Robertovich Sidelock Joined: May 2013 Posts: 221 Likes: 44	Originally Posted by eightbore Guns for competitive pigeon shooting in Europe were commonly made light, for whatever reason. European pigeon shooters were accustomed to heavy recoil, heavy loads in light guns. It was believed the best balance is along the hinge axis. Judging by the pre-war publications, more attention was paid to balance, not weight
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Re: H&H`s Special Pigeon Gun Drew Hause #623684 12/17/22 11:32 AM
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OP Robertovich Sidelock Joined: May 2013 Posts: 221 Likes: 44	[quote=Drew Hause]Yes, thank you Igor. A brief video from San Remo in 1937 gives some indication of the recoil from the pigeon loads of the era] My pleasure. I have a selection of materials about the pigeon shooting in Monte Carlo, Brussels («Tir du bois de la Cambre»), Spa, Oostende etc.

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