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It has been a challenge to document the Prix winners. This is not quite correct “Manly Sport of Pigeon Shooting” The Illustrated American March 24, 1894 http://books.google.com/books?id=tHVNAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA309&dqIn the first year of the competition, 1872, this was won by Mr. George Lorillard, of New York. For the next six years Englishmen took it, and then, in 1880, Count Esterhazy won it for Austria. Italians have won it six times, Count Cuidicini carrying it off three times. This year it was won by Count Lichy, an Austrian. The problem is that there were 2 grand prizes; the Gran Prix du Casino and the Prix de Monte Carlo AND Prix d’Ouverture and (later) Grand Poule D’Essai This is the best source that I've found. Sporting Life didn't report the Monte Carlo competitions regularly until the 1890s All the Gran Prix competitions were in January https://books.google.com/books?id=Vmg9AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA62&lpgGran Prix du Casino 1882 – George Lorillard, New York 1883 – H.J. Roberts 1884 – H.R.H. Comte de Montecupo 1885 – M. De Dorlodot 1886 – S. Guidicini 1887 – Comte Salina 1888 – not recorded 1889 – V. Dicks 1890 – S. Guidicini 1891 – Count Luca Cajoli 1892 – Count Trauttsmandorff Prix de Monte Carlo 1883 – S. Guidicini 1884 – M. Drevon 1885 – Capt. Shelley 1886 1887 – Seaton 1889 – M. Guido 1890 1891 1892 – H.J. Roberts Grand Poule D’Essai 1891 – B. Horton and V. Barker tied; C. Macalester (Philadelphia) 3rd February 14, 1891 Sporting Life https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/49722/rec/20![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Monte-Carlo/i-nJkNKG3/0/23729ed5/L/Monte%20Carlo%20Sporting%20Life%202-14-1891-L.png) A thread about Charles Macalester https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/charles-macalester.843725/Sporting Life April 29, 1883 Philadelphia vs. England https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/20466/rec/2Charles Macalester is a gentleman of leisure, a Philadelphia born and bred, and belongs to one of the oldest and wealthiest families in the city. For the last two years he has lived at his country place at Townsend’s Inlet, N.J. He has been an enthusiastic member of the Riverton Club ever since its organization and is always selected as a member of all the crack teams of the club. He has been to Europe with his gun a number of times and his taken part in several shooting contests in Monaco, where a few years ago he was awarded the Grande Prix, a work of art valued at about $2000 and an equal sum in cash. ($2000 then would be about $60,000 today) In all his single and team matches, Mr. Macalester has shot under the name of Johnson, and it is, therefore, as Johnson that he has made all his records. Another source Baily's Magazine of Sports & Pastimes, March, 1902 https://books.google.com/books?id=xJAbAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA244&lpg
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H.J. Roberts, 1883 ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Monte-Carlo/i-GL2gcJH/0/078d65a5/XL/J.%20Roberts%201883-XL.jpg)
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Edgar Murphy was another American Monte Carlo competitor February 24, 1886 in Monaco https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/21768/rec/112 April 28, 1886 https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/21850/rec/120 He was 3rd in the 1900 Olympic Games Live Bird demonstration competition “Grand Prix de Centenaire”, Live pigeon shooting II (Tir aux pigeons II) 1. MacKintosh, Donald (Australia) 22/22 pigeons 2. Villaviciosa, Pedro Marquis de (Spain) 21/22 pigeons 3. Murphy, Edgar (USA) 19/20 pigeons 4. Tavernost, A. Baron de (France) 14/15 pigeons 4. Journu, Henri (France) 14/15 pigeons 4. Ginot, A. M. (France) 14/15 pigeons Dates: 19-20 June Place: Cercle du Bois de Boulogne Participants: 166 “ce qui ne s’était jamais vu dans aucun contours tir aux pigeons.” Prizes: “Grand Prix du Centenaire” commemorative medals. Money: 1st - 5,000 francs; 2nd - 2,500 francs; 3rd - 1,500 francs; and 4th - 1,000 francs. Explanation: Miss and out. Edgar Murphy, U.S., Bronze; Donald Mackintosh, Australia, Gold; Pedro José Pidal, Spain, Silver. ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Trap-Skeet/Olympics-1901-Match/i-HSzBfq5/0/2b10b3cc/M/1900%202-M.jpg) June 8, 1895 Sporting Life“Prominent Expert Live Pigeon Shots of America” https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/47963/rec/1https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/47987
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April 17, 1897 Sporting Lifehttps://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/45608 The pigeon shooting season at Monte Carlo, which has been running for some months, ended last week. It was announced that the principal winners were Signor G. Graselli, whose success in the Grand Prix brought him in $4015 ( >$100,000 in today’s $s); M. Horodetzky, a Russian, who won $2600 ($65,000) in the early part of the season, and M. Journu, who shot very well all through, and is credited with $2255 ($56,400). Next to them comes the Australian Mackintosh, with $2125 ($53,000).
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MarkII:
It is my understanding that Bob Brister made a lot of his shooting money at Columbare shoots along the Tex/Mex border. Columbare is a much harder game than box birds.
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Any Swedes show up at Monte Carlo? From the 1927 Husqvarna catalog -- ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/GuXlk9i.jpg)
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“Crit” Robinson was another regular competitor on the European Pigeon circuit
He did not compete at the First DuPont Grand Smokeless Championship Handicap Live-bird Tournament October 1895, nor the 1896, 1897 or 1898 GAH
January 9, 1897 Sporting Life
“Crit” Robinson defeated Mr. Beresford, an English pigeon shot, in a 100 live bird match for $500 a side at Monte Carlo, on Jan. 5, by the score of 95 to 91.
March 6, 1897 Sporting Life
“Crit” Robinson, of San Francisco, took part in the Grand Prix at Monte Carlo on Feb. 1 and 2. He was in the race up to the eleventh round and then withdrew, having lost two birds. Mr. Robinson uses an L.C. Smith gun.
July 7, 1900 Sporting Life “Shooting In Paris”
Paris, June 28, 1900. “Crit” Robinson the Only American Among the Winners
The finals in the pigeon shooting contests at the Cercle du Bois de Boulogne, for the Exposition grand prize, which began Monday, came off yesterday, the competition having narrowed down to 36. The results were as follows: Leon de Lunden, 21 out of 21, first; Maurice Faure, 20 out of 21 second; D. Mclntosh and C. Robinson, each 18 out of 19, tied for third.
M. de Lunden is a well-known Belgian shot. In the first round A. G. Spaulding was among those who missed. “Tod” Sloan and Messrs. Wadsworth and Rogers dropped out in the next two rounds, when only four competitors were left.
Mr. Robinson, a Californian, proposed dividing the whole stake of $6,000 to which the others agreed. The match has been concluded.
Live pigeon shooting I (Grand Prix de l’Exposition Universelle de 1900) (Tir aux pigeons) This appears to have been the more important event and was likely the one considered to be of “Olympic standards.” In addition, most of the “Olympic” events carried the title of an event “…de l’Exposition. ”
1. Lunden, Léon de (Belgium) - 21 pigeons of 21
2. Faure’, Maurice (France) - 20 pigeons of 21
3. MacKintosh, Donald (Australia) - 18 pigeons of 19
3. Robinson, Crittenden (USA) - 18 pigeons of 19
5. Pederzoli, J. (Italy) - 15 pigeons of 16
6. Bethune, Baron C. (France) - 14 pigeons of 15
7. J. Banwell, (Great Britain) - 12 pigeons of 13
Dates: 25 - 27 JUN
Place: Cercle du Bois de Boulogne
Participants: 52
Prizes: “Grand Prix de l'Exposition universelle de 1900”, silver plaques as commemorative medals for those placing, and for those with at least three killed pigeons.
Money: 1st - 20,000 francs; 2nd - 50%; 10,000 francs, 3rd - 30%; 6,000 francs, 4th - 20%, 4,000 francs.
“Le deuxième, le troisième, et la quatrième partageront dans la proportion suivante, les entrées du prix.”
Explanation: Miss and out.
July 17, 1904 Sporting Life
“Crit” Robinson, of San Francisco, won the gold medal at Grand Prix des Casinos, Aux les Baines, France, July 16, killing 16 straight live birds. He was tied by M. Bucquet, the French shot, and they divided first money, $2700, and shot off for the medal. In a second event Robinson divided first money with M. Castadere on 12 kills each.
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Hard to outscore a wealthy man with a good Johnson.. RWTF
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I am just captivated by the crazy mad money & the bedizened longarms that accomplished it. Sport of Kings, Kings of the Pigeon Ring.
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