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Dave: 49134 would be about 1903. Martin Diefenderfer, of Wood River, Nebraska won the GAH at Targets in KC with a Lefever that year https://books.google.com/books?id=WUQhAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA337 I looked through the list of competitors at the 1904 & 1905 GAHs and could not find a RAS.
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Serial 44061,
12 ga.
32" bbls with pattern Damascus,
extractor,
capped pistol grip,
Stamped G on action flats, F on barrel flats although #'s match,
Other oddity is wt. = 9 lbs, 3/4 oz. Barrels alone are 5 lbs, 1 1/2oz.
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Serial 35688
16 ga EE
28" bbls Krupp Steel
6 lbs 6 oz
Cyl/ Lt full chokes
Capped PG
Last edited by GlennW; 01/31/20 04:26 PM.
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#47216, G grade, 12b, 30", muzzle ID rt 0.726, lf 0.714. Weight 7# 5oz. Barrels 3# 8oz.
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serial 57917 12 ga EE grade , ejectors, Damascus, 30" barrels 7 lbs 6 oz full and full
serial 49323 I grade[ yes, really it is ], 30" steel barrels, extractors,full and full, haven't weighed this one
cable
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Serial number 37080, G grade, extractor, Damascus (walls were getting pretty thin at the muzzles), 30-inch barrels, shallow capped pistol grip, 7-ish lbs, original hard plastic (bakelite?) butt-plate....can't remember any more (haven't owned it for many years now). I think I had dated it to something like 1901 but.....too far back now.
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Bob, 16 gauge G, 28 cut damascus barrels, non ejector, pistol grip, original butt plate, 24229.
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[img:left]  [/img] 233628 My great old FLUES It was a favorite Quail gun for several years
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Stallones,
Ithaca and Lefever are two completely different companies. The only relation they have to each other is that Ithaca bought the remnants of Lefever Arms Co. long after Dan Lefever was both disassociated with the company, and dead.
Ithaca made more double guns "branded" Lefever than they made with their OWN name. This tells you the esteem that both Ithaca, and the buying public, had for the Lefever name. (see Snyder's book for the full explanation.)
As such, doing the math given known Ithaca production of "Lefever" named models vs our rough estimates of the number which were Dan's design, one can see that 80% of all American guns ever made bearing the name Lefever have nothing to do with the man whose name they bear, were not his design, and were made decades after he was dead.
Ithaca simply 'pimped' the name.
No flies on an Ithaca Flues...they are nice doubles. But they have nothing to do with Lefever. And Dan Lefever had nothing to do with the majority of guns which bear that name.
This is why you will sometimes see people referencing "real" Lefevers. They are talking about the original ones.
NDG
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