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Steve, Thank you for the reply. I need all the info. I can get on double rifles. From the prices I have seen, 12k does not seem too high for a double rifle. Of course, I am looking at dealer prices. Did you notice in my orig. post that it included a fitted case, springer scope with quick detachable mounts, and some other accessories? I am used to paying almost that much for some of my English SxS shotguns, so it didn't seem high.
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Mike, Thanks again for the info. The rifle originally belonged to a good friend and he could never get it regulated. It was sold to another of my friends who has it now and he finally got it to regulate with the Sierra 4255 (45 Colt) jacketed bullets.
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Roger, I have not seen the gun but keep a few things in mind when it comes to value on a double rifle.
Caliber is extremely important, black powder rifles commanding far less on market than their nitro counterparts. The .450 BPE is a wonderful round but the number of buyers is far less than for a Nitro gun. Nitro guns in .450 are real dangerous game guns, the bpe version is more suited to thin skinned game. Nothing wrong with a .450 BPE, I just bought one myself, just realize the difference on the market.
Continental guns do not bring near what English guns do money wise. Just way less buyers. That means as a buyer you get more for your money. A good thing but keep in mind you do want to paying English gun prices.
Configuration is important, scoped back action hammer BPE rifles are a bit of an oddity. You sure do not see many. Lots of us are getting older and could utilize a scope but to be honest I think it puts off many buyers.
Lastly, it is a buyers market.
Pictures could change my mind. Certain guns bring a premium, this could be one of those.
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Steve, Thanks for the reply. You make some very good and valuable points. After doing some more checking I find out that the chamber/ bore was originally 65mm but was opened up to 80mm so that a 450 case would fit.
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Felix, I want to thank you for your help and advice. With the info. you gave me I did some checking and found out that the first owner that could not get it to shoot (65mm) chamber/throat had it opened up to 80mm so that it would accept a 450 case! Thank you again for sharing your time and expertise.
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To Roger O Please can you let me know your e-mail via a PM Cheers Felix Neuberger
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If the bullet is .4255" then it is VERY close to the .423" (10.75 mm) that is employed in the .404 Jeffery. There are a number of currently available bullets for the .404 Jeffery... Hornady, Swift, Nosler, Northfork, Hawk, and the Weldcore bullets from Aussie Land.
Is this the case?
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Just a comment on Springer guns, I have seen several over the years and find them much more British styled then typical Continental guns. Here is one that was for sale earlier this year. http://www.champlinarms.com/Default.aspx...&GunID=3102
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I think it was supposed to be .4525 instead of .4255, It is a 450, nicht wahr?
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