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#507957 03/11/18 01:41 PM
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I am setting up a display of American drillings (double barrels shotgun with third rifle barrel) for the Baltimore Arms Show. I have: D.M. Lefever (sidecocker), Lefever Arms Co., Wm. Baker, L.C. Smith, D. Kirkwood, Hollenbeck Gun Co., Three Barrel Gun Co., and Royal Gun Co.

Are there others that are not just a one off? I have heard rumors of Remington and Ithaca models but cannot find them.


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great idea, would love to see it. Have not heard of any more than you mention. Wish you would write an article and publish about your display. Wonder what serial no. Hollenbecks you have. Numbered sequentially as you probably know. I have 2 Hollenbeck Drillings now, no. 35 passed down in my family (see thread Hollenbeck Drilling and German insert) and no. 236 just purchased from Cherry's, they have several more on consignment. Good luck

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Dr. Bob,
Post some pics of your display. Great idea. Would love to see it!


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I have seen drillings made after market on Parker Bros. and Ithaca doubles, but don't have a picture on this lap top.

During the Whitmore lifter action era, E. Remington & Sons made a very few double rifles and side-by-side rifle/shotgun combination guns but I don't know of a drilling.

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There are quite a few muzzle loading drillings made in America, but it looks like you are doing breechloaders. Good idea for a display.

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Not a drilling but I had the privilege of holding a Ellis & Lefever side hammer ML over/under in about 16 gauge by .40 caliber rifle. It was an extremely light weight gun, would have been very easy to carry all day. Was at a gun show so of course had no opportunity to shoot it.


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Daryl, thanks for that. I am working on the poster for the display and will be sure to make it "Breechloading"

Miller, I have one of the Lefever and Ellis "Cape Guns" you describe. I need to get that in the LACA newsletter. It would be great to do a story about shooting it.


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Drew, Fred Adolph missed inclusion on my list because the guns were made in Germany/Prussia and finished by Fred Adolph in Genoa, NY.

Genoa was notable in my youth for being in Cayuga County while Ithaca and Cornell University are in Tompkins County. At the time the closing time for bars in Tompkins County was 1 AM, while Cayuga County was 3 AM. Drinking age was 18. Genoa was 18 miles from Ithaca. Need I say more?


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Here is the display as requested. This may sound like "Sour grapes" and it is. Remember, this is the Baltimore Antique ARMS Show. This display lost out to a display of a bunch of beat up tin cups allegedly from the Civil War. The judging is rigged. They can fill my slot next year with "Dildos from the War of 1812" for all I care.





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