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I�m sure many in England would agree but they would be as misinformed as you seem to be. It was the U.K. that voted to leave and even then there was a majority in Scotland and N.Ireland that voted to remain. And of course nobody has left anything yet. If or when it does actually happen there�s a fair chance it will lead to the break up of the U.K.
Lest you think that that I hope Britain stays in the EU nothing could be further from my mind. On the contrary, I think the U.K. leaving will be the best thing that could happen to the EU. Ever since they joined the Brits have been obstructionest on nearly every effort towards closer unity. They absolutely hate the idea of an EU defense force. They did everything they could to undermine the Euro and complained constantly about every EU law and the ECJ.
What�s funny is there are people in Britain who think that the EU may not survive their departure. Frankfurt, Paris and Dublin are already vieing for the Banks and financial service companies that will have to leave London to stay in business. The cruel truth is the people who voted to leave were sold a a bunch of bullshit. They want to �take back control�. When did working class or poor people ever have control? Britain doesn�t even have a written constitution. They aren�t even citizens, they are subjects of Her Majesty. At least as members of the EU their rights were protected by the ECJ. I hope there will come a time when a majority of Britons will understand that they were conned by clique of old Tory land owing snobs who can�t wait to dismantle worker�s rights and minimum wages.
There, end of rant.

Old Tory land owning snobs or a bunch of wankers in Brussels. They�re fooked either way. Pick your poison.


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We need a few of our English brothers to comment since they are right in the thick of it.

I tnink the posts by HeymSR20 and Thruxton are correct and state the facts. The original article was about selling newspapers, not reporting about shooting.

"Those grouse shooting "British Aristocrats" MADE the London and Birmingham gun trade and that trade took the world from Flintlocks to modern, breech loading double guns. "

Hmmm not quite so. French maker Pauly devised the first breech loader in the 1810s, Lefaucheux the break open action in the 1840s. The British made the SXS into a specialised tool for driven game. Others refined versions better suited to the lone walking hunter and his dog, people like Darne, Manufrance with the Ideal, Germans with their drillings, and when the OU came along thankfully Browning and Beretta provided affordable OUs for us all. If it wre left to the British we would have to mortgage our homes to hunt or shoot some Skeet with their OUs.

About Brexit not the article.

About Brexit not the article. [/quote]

I don't believe Brexit will make any significant change to "Bird Shoots in Britain" which is the thread subject.

I don't have much to add about Brexit because a vote was held which went the 'leave' way. Leaving is now being arranged - and under what terms it will happen - no one knows, which is why it is hard to add much.

I see. I thought you guys already left, lock, stock and barrel.

No; we started a 2 year leaving period in March 2017 and are scheduled to leave on 29th March 2019.

After that date there will be a transition period of just under 2 years - and no one knows as yet exactly what the 'transition period' arrangements will be - or what the final arrangements for trade and certain other aspects will be post transition period.

Had our membership remained that of a 'common market' or 'Economic Community' - which is how it was sold to the UK populace when we originally joined (1973) when there were 9 members with (very broadly) similar economies, we would probably have ended up with a remain outcome. It was a sensible trading group.

However, it has now grown to 27 - with very different economies - and is aiming for 'ever closer union' with common laws, taxation, economic controls like interest rates, armed forces, foreign policy etc. all being aspired to by some parties.

Currently 11 countries are net contributors (with the UK second largest after Germany) and 16 are net beneficiaries, with Greece and Poland receiving the largest net benefits.

Trying to run 27 countries with economies, climates and cultures as different as Germany and Greece will not happen without a lot of pain. Having 27 different governments with powers of veto on legislation is not a viable way of running anything. The UK under David Cameron shortly before the referendum did try and keep a more 'open relationship' (and indeed the UK never joined the Euro currency) but the EU are determined to enforce 'ever closer union' by increased centralisation.
The majority (albeit a small majority) in the UK believed that the time had come to leave - and have control of our own future.

Whether that will prove to have been the right decision will very much depend on what the trade deal for the future turns out to be. It is not in the EU's interest for the UK to 'prosper' outside the EU, because the populations of others who make large contributions (Germany, Netherlands, France, Italy, Sweden) are watching with interest. It is not in the UK's interest to pay heavy trade tariffs - and the UK imports more from the EU than it exports to the EU - so there is a lot to sort out!

C�mon, Treb. You need to keep up with this stuff. A good bit of the easy things have been hashed out, but a big sticking point is how many billions of Pounds Brussels is going to extort , I mean get in the divorce. Those EU defense forces aren�t going to be cheap!

Now what to do with the pesky Basques and Poles? Bloody �ell.


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