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Yeah, getting into a gunfight with a rifle against a machine gun at a distance is not for the meek of heart.

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Originally Posted By: pooch
Originally Posted By: Ken61
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A machine gun can be like an artillery piece.


That would be "Plunging Fire".


Kind of like plunging shotgun fire. You shoot in bursts so that several rounds hit in the targeted area nearly simultaneously. You don't have single round accuracy at long ranges, you have burst accuracy.


Easier, and much more spectacular, with an M203. However, a Battalion Six firing TIme on Target pretty much says it all, excepting when the Iowa Class was still in commission. (I wish I had seen that, I saw a film of it when I was in AGOS at Eglin. We actually got the Commander of Syrian forces in Lebanon with one) A Cluster Bomb impact is exciting, had that one a few Clicks away in Iraq.

Best thing for snipers, a Battery One of VT.

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I'm doing range sweeps for a subroc program that was making shoots at San Clemente. The sub is not going to shoot for a while cause the engineers have found a problem so we are airborne, loafing above an under cast half asleep. A destroyer Captain calls and says he is Vietnam bound with a green crew and needs to do some shooting at San Clemente range. WE OK it. I'm loafing and out in front appears this cute little black cloud. First black cloud I'd ever seen. Suddenly the sky is full of little black clouds and they are way too close. Those knot heads are shooting their anti aircraft through an overcast without clearing it. We dive down and tell them to knock it off. They go over to the target area and start shooting. We are low now watching because we don't trust them. They are bouncing their 5 inch shells on the water two or three times before the shells get to the target area, these gunners can't even hit an island. I could just imagine being in a landing craft headed for the beach with some knot heads on a destroyer bouncing his "friendly" fire all around me. So much for the pinpoint accuracy of Naval gunfire. Glad I went the aviation route.

Like a buddy once said "I think we entertained more VC then we killed".

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"King", the reason your credibility is rarely questioned here is that you have NO credibility here. I, certainly, do not suffer Marxists well.

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As far as the Lapua is considered, it is a 338/378 Weatherby without a belt. The 338/378 and 300/378 were developed in the 1960's due to interest by our g'ment. With a 250 grain bullet, the factory ballistics (3050 fps) are 50 fps over Lapua. I have loaded it in a 338/378 Keith Thompson to 3450 fps(104 gr 4350...work up from 90 grains), but it was a barrel burner. For this reason, I dropped back to 3250 FPS. Weatherby made 5 of these guns in the 1960's with the last one named 340/378 but differed in name only. With a break, it can be comfortably fired all day long.

As far as the Browning 50 is concerned, the common loads are 650 and 750 grains at about 2700fps developing 14,500 ft-lbs of energy. It is a comfortable gun to shoot at 24#s as mine was, but is commonly available in 30-40lb guns. A local got one for his 18 yr old daughter for Christmas. She loves it. Of course it might be too much gun for a Marxist Canadian.

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