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The NRA isn't half bad at all about keeping folks informed. As to picking and choosing battles, I don't know if kali is the best place to expend resources responsibly. The NRA gets really good mileage on the national level, and purely for the various federal fundings, kali has signaled that they may ease up on some of their policies.

In the US, and particularly places like kali, education forced hard left might be considered well established, and validated by their court system. Note how you teach us what a glorious thing it is to kick and scream about the election.

I don't think we're really discussing a 'right' here, but rather policy. Maybe, it's time for tough love? Can you believe the excitement of the union leaders, ya, ya, representing the forgotten middle class, after yesterday's WH meeting? Smart folks not wanting to be left behind, or a new subclass of misogynists?

Not discussing election, craig. Commenting on how to change things. No need for the other here.

NRA isn't half-bad. It's good on getting out information to its members. Key is content for improving public support. Branding itself by promoting responsible use of firearms, as it did successfully, evolved into one of the most powerful Washington lobbies often seen by many in the pejorative, apart from its original wholesome brand. Walking the talk, I've offered my opinion to NRA of how to elicit stronger public support, as well to Senator John McCain.

Sorry about that King. In an awkward way, I was trying to contrast two ways of educating folks about an example, the election. Shouldn't we be 'educating' folks to work with what life throws them, instead of complain and attempt to delegitimize what is inevitable? What happens when soro's foreign funding for the show drys up? Beg for more or get a job?

King, we've seen the advice that you offered to the NRA. It included giving up ground to the anti-gunners by giving up on large capacity magazines as you suggested here:



It also included meekly rolling over when Obama and Co. were attempting to pass massive anti-gun legislation after Newtown in 2013. Here's a quote by King Brown from his post # 308159 on 1/8/13 where he lambasted the NRA and suggested that they should consider the massive gun control Obama was attempting to shove down our throats as he exploited a tragedy to infringe upon our Constitutional Rights:



You have roundly and repeatedly criticized the NRA, especially about Wayne LaPierres comment that "the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun". You continued your NRA bashing even after that Wayne LaPierre statement was borne out in Canada when Mountie Kevin Vickers retrieved a gun and killed the Muslim Terrorist who was shooting up Parliament.

Thankfully, the NRA did not accept your insane advice to cede ground to the anti-gunners. That's kind of what happened during the passage of the GCA of 1968, and we have spent nearly 50 years attempting to claw back some of what we lost.

Stick to negotiating the clear-cutting of pulpwood King. We don't need or want any advice from an anti-gun Troll who is still in denial about the 2008 Heller and McDonald Supreme Court decisions:

Replacement, your last lame reply indicates that it is you who cannot or will not read. Of course I read the NRA piece, and I have already noted that they have been unable to do much to reverse the Kalifornia ban. Did you see where I noted that the NRA Board does not comprise the Kalifornia Legislature and Wayne LaPierre is not either Dictator or Governor of Kalifornia? Or did your big mouth block your vision? The NRA absolutely has tried, which is likely a lot more than you have done. Have you done even a tiny bit of research to see what they have accomplished elsewhere? Did you bother clicking on this link? Or are you too invested in denial, denigrating the NRA, and attempting to prove me wrong:

EPA Surrenders to NRA on Gun Control/ Lead Ammo Ban Issue

The NRA has done a tremendous amount to both inform gun owners and sportsmen about lead ammunition bans, and to lobby and mount legal battles to stop or reverse them. They spend a huge amount on efforts to elect pro-gun politicians... the kind King Brown would never support. If you aren't happy with them, you could ask for a refund of your membership dues money... that is, if you ever put your money where your mouth is and joined the fight.

Depends what you mean by working with what life throws them, craig. Most people live with an expectation of change for the better in their own lifetimes. I do and key is work, not whining, coming up with better ways to make healthier and happier communities, starting with small projects demonstrating more benefits, more competent and less expensive management for government to respond to. It's not government's job to make better social and economic infrastructure. Big government comes from saying you pols and bureaucrats come up with ideas and do it while it's commoners who have real experience living it with skin in the game. As for big-money funding drying up, a couple presidential candidates did really well crowd funding from the seat of their arse. Bottom-up, craig, not top-down.

Some bird hunting on land owned by the State of Illinois requires non-tox ammo. Not a big deal, and not much of a problem.

JERRY

It's "death by a thousand cuts" here in Kalifornia. There are always a few guys out there that figure the latest regulation is not really a big deal. And maybe it isn't. But they keep adding up and we keep losing shooters and hunters, in this state for sure. And it has become almost ridiculously easy for "them" (the anti's and GC zealots) to pass the next piece of legislation. The anti's have realized how easy it is to divide and conquer us. They must be laughing all the way to the bank.