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Looks like it did time in a German museum, from the tag.
I've never seen anything quite like it. It was proofed in St. Etienne, appears to be post 1900.
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Ted, have you seen the Darne design where the breech pivots? Saw a couple of those one year at the old UP Classic SxS Shoot.
Of course not everything French is that different. WWI French ace of aces Rene Fonck (75 kills) did an ad for Verney-Carron. He said that shooting his V-C, the birds fell "like Boches!" And V-C described him in the ad as a "hunter of men". A gun ad that's definitely different, even if the gun itself isn't.
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Safety looks kind of like a Manufrance Ideal...Geo
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It says "Weaponry museum of the town of Suhl", if I'm not mistaken. Some GI was quick enough to pick it up in the few weeks before the Thuringien was passed over to the Soviets.
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Fanget was the tube source.
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Thanks for the input fellas. It was in a German museum at one time. I looked up that tag for info back when I first handled the gun 3 years ago as the guy who had it swore up and down it was German because of that tag. I say French all the way based on the Darne similarities, but I have found no makers mark of any kind anywhere, and I have had it apart down to the barest of bare pieces. Same serial number everywhere, but no marks of any kind after the number and the proof marks you see. Regardless of anything, a very cool piece in my opinion.
Everything functions well mechanically, I need to replace a few screws and put it back on face, but the design makes that pretty simple and straightforward. The wood needs some serious attention though, not quite sure what I will do about that yet, but I will get it back to a shootable condition. Be sure to keep an eye out at the big SxS shoots in the future, I will use it for a round or 2.
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It is indeed "French all the way". Proofmarks leave no doubt of that.
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What is A F in the oval ? Maybe not French all of the way if that relates to Francotte, but I am not sure it does.
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