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I asked the dealer for these shells some time ago for pressure information and never had a reply so I'm still using RST shells.

RST is very responsive with pressure information requests. Just FYI, I've found no factory loaded shells with low pressure like the RST Ultra Lite 2.5" 3/4 oz. 12 bore shells: 4400 PSI.

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While I enjoy shooting RST shells at both targets and small birds, I have had very poor results with them on wild roosters. The last rooster I shot over my first bird dog Maggie was with some RST shells I had them load for me specifically for pheasants. I requested a 1&1/8 oz of 5's at 1200 FPS....I'm pretty sure I got something much slower. That last bird was incoming, breast on, at about 25 yards. The bird went down but was not dead. The old girl worked it out and we put the very alive rooster in the bag. Upon cleaning it I found the pellets on the TOP of the breast meat. I have not used RST on anything bigger than Grouse since. YMMV.


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Originally Posted By: SKB
While I enjoy shooting RST shells at both targets and small birds, I have had very poor results with them on wild roosters. The last rooster I shot over my first bird dog Maggie was with some RST shells I had them load for me specifically for pheasants. I requested a 1&1/8 oz of 5's at 1200 FPS....I'm pretty sure I got something much slower. That last bird was incoming, breast on, at about 25 yards. The bird went down but was not dead. The old girl worked it out and we put the very alive rooster in the bag. Upon cleaning it I found the pellets on the TOP of the breast meat. I have not used RST on anything bigger than Grouse since. YMMV.


Gotcha there! Still it would be nice to have pressure information on the H&H shells.

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The RST ammo I have run over my chronograph has come in 50 to 60 fps slower than advertised, but your loads sound really slow. Borrow someone's chronograph and find out.
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My H&H flat arrived today and the shipping box says Hull cartridges. I'm hopeful, I still have a few box of Hull shells I bought about 15 years ago and they were very hard hitting. We will see, I still wish they offered some plastic wad field loads but beggars can be choosers they say. I'm too busy lately to load shotshells, yet I know I should.


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My H&H flat arrived today and the shipping box says Hull cartridges.


So which load did you get?

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That will be right as Hull Cartridge Co. make them for Hollands to their requirements. They also supply to the Royal Household and hold a Royal Warrant for cartridge manufacture. Lagopus.....

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I picked up the 1&1/8 OZ of 6's. I should have inquired as to velocities, the seller did mention that the 1&1/16 oz loads were a little faster.


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Found a list of loads with shot and fps, but no pressures, including Hull, Eley, Lyalvale Express, Rio, Gamebore & RC
http://www.justcartridges.com/cartridge-info/

Hull offers a "Subsonic (less than 1,126 fps) Very Low Recoil" 1 oz. 2 1/2" load.

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The field loads are fast....way faster than I expected.

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