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All you have to do is pick up a Remington and you know for certain that its a English game gun. They are so well balanced.

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NICE, but they always put the safety in the wrong place
Hmmm. I find the Greener side safety very convenient and easy to use.

Probably the easiest of all is the safety on the Greener GP single: whilst retaining a loose hold on the stock you just nudge the lever forward with your index finger top knuckle. Surprisingly this tyre iron looking gun handles beautifully especially in the longer barreled specimens. I'm using a 32" Dig found for me on flighting woodpigen...mustard.

Having said that I have only one modest claim to shooting fame; I don't seem to get confused by different twiddly controls on guns, safeties, loading mechanisms whatever.

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Harrington & Richardson built the Anson & Deeley hammerless boxlock under license in the U.S. Remington licensed the Deeley forearm latch and used it on their Models 1879, 1882, 1883, 1885/7 and 1889 hammer doubles.

The Models 1894 and 1900 hammerless doubles were built under U.S. Patent No. 528,507 granted to R.C. Fey and assigned to Remington Arms Co.; and U.S. Patent No. 528,508 granted to R.C. Fey and G.E. Humphreys and also assigned to Remington Arms Co.

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NICE, but they always put the safety in the wrong place
Hmmm. I find the Greener side safety very convenient and easy to use.

Probably the easiest of all is the safety on the Greener GP single: whilst retaining a loose hold on the stock you just nudge the lever forward with your index finger top knuckle. Surprisingly this tyre iron looking gun handles beautifully especially in the longer barreled specimens. I'm using a 32" Dig found for me on flighting woodpigen...mustard.

Having said that I have only one modest claim to shooting fame; I don't seem to get confused by different twiddly controls on guns, safeties, loading mechanisms whatever.

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Eugene, that is an interesting shotgun. I like it!

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Greener's eh?

The GP is a strange beast - I agree that they have a charm and a degree of historical pedigree that makes them interesting, they are also very simple,tough and cheap so good fun to customise if so inclined (like Eugene).

The trigger pull is horrible.

I see them with everything from 25" to 34" barrels, black, red, polished and colour hardened actions and wood that varies from yellow to deep dark red/brown.

I have a picture of myself shooting a rare 'Trap Model made for the USA - complete with monte-carlo stock and raised ventilated rib!

The side safety idea was primarily one of strength - less wood removed from the hand of the stock, which flexes when the gun is fired.You either like 'em, hate 'em or just adjust when you have one and have no strong opinion either way. To my mind it is just another varient and works well if you have one fitted, just as a side lever works well - even if you are used to a top lever.

Inlaid fancy wood diamonds are common on higher grade Greeners, as are more intricate shaped patterns for the checkering.

The top extension and bolt is Greener's Treble Wedge Fast patent and it is invariably beautifully engineered when encountered on Greener guns, unfortunately on many cheap guns by lesser makers, it can be so poorly made as to be useless. Quality counts.

The Gun and it's Development is a great historical rteference but it is not the least bit impartial - if you read it you emerge believing that Greener was the cleverest, most inventive, most honourable and most authoritative firearms expert in the world.Exactly as he intended.

Remember, he was a gunmaker and a businessman and his book was of huge advertising value - he was very aware of this in all that he wrote and he needs to be read in context.

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