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I guess I was wrong about ebay gun sales....if they did it was before my internet time.

But there's still plenty of gun parts on Ebay

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Originally Posted By: JDW
I have been an eBay and PayPal user from 1998, and I do believe in the early years, eBay did let you list guns for sale. It was I believe after one of the mass school shootings that they then stopped it.
Also as Bill stated, eBay sold PayPal.


You and Daryl are both correct. Ebay did originally allow gun sales until the anti's got to the Libtards in charge.
What's being reported now is Facebook's latest try at saving the world by preventing legal gun sales.
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Actually you can use paypal to pay for a gun, they just don't want to know about it. It is called a discreet sale.


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WOW, good info James-l! How do you do that within PayPal?

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The current restrictions E-bay has on the listing of guns, magazines, and guns parts critical to making a gun fire happened shortly after the April 16, 2007 mass murders at Virginia Tech by Seung-Hui Cho.

Cho was a psychiatric patient under treatment for his psychological problems, but had no criminal background beyond being accused of stalking female students. So he was able to legally purchase his guns and pass the background checks. None of the laws imposed upon law abiding gun owners by Obama would have prevented this tragedy. Over twice as many people die annually in the U.S. from accidental poisoning than gun violence, but Obama chose to attack law abiding gun owners.

This is because most Left Wing Democrat politicians are anti-gun. This is not political debate. This is a verifiable fact.

Cho committed suicide by shooting himself in the head after the shootings. He had been suicidal in the past, and left a long rambling suicide note explaining his actions. His behavior was a common side effect of patients who are on or have been recently taken off of SSRI's, or selective seratonin reuptake inhibitors. This is the class of anti-depressants including Prozac, Luvox, Zoloft, Paxil, and many more.

Most don't engage in mass shootings, but many mass shooters have been on these drugs. Suicide and suicidal thoughts with no feelings about the ramifications are more common. Obama would have done much better to investigate and regulate the use of these very dangerous drugs if he was really interested in saving lives.

We were never told about what drugs were in Seung-Hui Cho's system when he snapped. The knee-jerk reaction for Liberal Democrats is to always blame the gun. Hence, E-bay's tightened restrictions. Read more about SSRI drugs and their disturbing side effects here:

http://ssristories.org/


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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You can pay for anything with Paypal as long as you don't declare what it is. Having said that, if you don't tell them what you are buying they offer no buyer protection.


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There are a lot of receivers for sale on ebay.


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Originally Posted By: Nudge
Run With The Fox,

I believe you are confusing eBay with Facebook. eBay has never allowed gun sales, not have they allowed use of PayPal to pay for them (eBay owns PayPal).

I am, not on Facebook and never will be, but apparently they used to allow sellers to use their Facebook pages, and no longer will. They are bowing to the demands of a "concerned Moms" group who is very misinformed on their gun and gun crime statistics (think "Everytown").

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Maybe yes, maybe no- about 4 years ago- when I got "shit-canned" from the Pregnant Gophers Cornwallis Appreciation Ass'n--- It was mainly due to me calling out my arch-nemesis therein- "Murph Da Surf" who swore that he bought a Model 21 (NOT 12) for $500 from some unknowing "chump" who posted it for sale on E-Bay. From the get-go, E-BHay has been anti-gun, they are owned and operated by the same cult of piss-head CA Hippies, related to the ones who spit on us when we rotated back from 'Nam to The World, and had the bad luck to have MATS land us in Frisco-- I don't trust E-Bay any further than I can throw a Steinway across the main stage of Carnegie Hall.


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Originally Posted By: Nudge
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On another matter, while I understand the right of a merchant to decide not to allow selling of a certain kind of product, I which someone would challenge PayPal legally for refusing to transact such. Because if buying and selling guns is legal, and U.S. currency is legal for "all debts public and private," and PayPal transactions are denominated in U.S. currency...then maybe they can't be allowed to discriminate.

They are, after all, not the venue for the purchase...just the transaction mechanism. So if PayPal can say no, then what are we to do if JP Morgan or Bank of America suddenly say they won't process a check written for a gun purchase, or won't allow use of a debit card for it? ...


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I just got done working on a case involving a company - what I'll call a "merchant-hosting company" for lack of a better name - that worked with PayPal as a "payment processor". PayPal is one of the largest of the payment processors.
A "merchant-hosting company" factors between individual small merchants and the internet, providing the merchants with a place for their selling websites to reside and a website platform for them to build their sales site on.
Basically, the payment processors have contracts with the credit card companies (and banks) and those contracts specify what kinds of goods and services can and cannot be paid for with the credit cards through the payment processors. In turn, the payment processors have contracts with the merchant-hosting companies (and places like EBay) that do the actual transactions. These contracts impose the same conditions and prohibitions on the merchant-hosting companies and EBays as the credit-card companies impose on the payment processors. The credit card companies require that.
The prohibitions are enforced in two ways. First, the credit card company can cut off the payment processor. Second, the credit card company can fine the payment processor. These fines start in the tens of thousands of dollars and can go into the mid-six figures. The payment processors can do the same thing to the merchant-hosting companies. Individual merchants are usually just cut off. The payment processors require the merchant-hosting companies to keep large sums of money on deposit with them to cover potential fines (as well as chargebacks and such).

The credit card companies have decided - usually for legal reasons but sometimes for political ones - to ban certain goods and services. These include porn, electronic gambling, drugs (legal and illegal), bride catalogs, escort services, pyramid schemes, work-at-home scams, get-rich-quick schemes and weapons. Most of them are covered by either one or more federal statutes or treaties - remember that the internet is international. So, a little reinterpretation of some law or another and the processors decided dealing in firearms was too risky, financially, to them to allow it to continue.

It's a complicated system, but some of the most fearful people on earth are bankers and financial people and a little nudge from the government is all it takes to get them to close the doors to legitimate people. Regardless of any other considerations - all they care about is their bottom line.


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the issue with fleabay is anyone can call in and say they feel endangered by your gun ad and ebay pulls it until their so called experts review it.
to me it wasnt worth the gamble, time, and effort.
i just go to
www.gunauction.com
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www.agt.com
to sell my stuff.


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