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I was recently talking to someone about his parker repro and he mentioned it was choked quail 1 quail 2. I have never heard of such a thing? Does anyone have details?

It's a gimmick, like skeet 1, skeet 2, really nothing more than light IC/Mod.

During the sixties, Simmons Specialties of Kansas City decided to offer their own branded shotgun and contracted with Savage/Stevens to convert a variant of the Stevens Model 311 20 gauge; stock 311 24" barrel, case colored receiver, and double triggers converted to a single trigger. Simmons would then install a vent rib with a "glow-worm" front bead. They ceased production in 1969.

I'm almost sure The Quail 1 / Quail 2 was in some ad copy but couldn't find it. This is from the Simmons catalog

I have a 20 ga. Parker Repro that is choked Q1 & Q2. I believe it was the same as Skeet 1 & Skeet 2.. If it is of interest to you I can measure the choke constrictions.

Dennis

Possibly the Winchester 23 also
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=264215

I seem to remember another 20 guage "Quails Fargo" from that same period. The importer name "Dakin" sticks in my not-very-sticky mind, and I remember the gun I handled had a 22" barrel, pretty unusual.

But "Quails Fargo" sounds like a trademarked name--could there have been two of them?

Mike: during that same period, Simmons was the U.S. Sales & Service Rep for Dakin
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=67051

I have two Parker Reproductions that are choked Q1/Q2. My 28-ga. has .003/.006 constrictions and my 20-ga. has .004/.007 constrictions. This choking is quite possibly the finest choke combination ever devised for < 31.67 yard targets. Far superior to SK1/SK2. In fact, the only times I have missed targets through Q1/Q2 choked guns was my fault.

I have a 28 Ga. 2-barrel set Parker Repro. 28" barrel is choked Mod/Full and the 26" barrel is choked Imp/Mod.