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Originally Posted By: BrentD
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Fred, isn't it time to offer up your explanation?


Hi Brent,

With everyone saying it was scraping, I've lost a bit of confidence in
my explanation. I had hoped to do an experiment today, but instead
the day was spent doing home and car repair.

Ok, when I look at the pictures of the bolt, I sometimes think I see dots
and that some of the lines look like overlapping dots. I have a copy of
Clyde Baker's book "Modern Gunsmithing", my edition is copyrighted 1928.
Near the very end of Chapter 19, Engraving and Ornamentation, he talks about using
an "Ark-O-Graph", basically an electropencil and even tells how to make one.
He writes "that by moving the point rapidly over any metal surface it is matted
quickly and without fuss". I hope to try to reproduce this stuff sometime soon.

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Fred,
I think what Clyde Baker is talking about will give you a much different surface.
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this is the type of scraping I was referring to.


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Originally Posted By: SKB
....this is the type of scraping I was referring to.

Steve, that appears to have the tooling marks of scraping, while the original bolt picture looks to be a rotary bit, maybe like rm bill said, a pointed stone.

Can I ask, did you do that? Do you know the whys and what fors of that amount of coverage? Just curious. The machine way scraping I was thinking about just skims high spots on ways and doesn't really show as tooling marks.

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Craig,
I did not do that treatment to the metal. It is very common on Bridgeport mills. I believe that surface is done by hand and that the reason is that it reduces friction and gives the lubricant a place to go.
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Thanks Steve. I notice they didn't want to do the dovetails. I suppose, a tiny scraper, good magnification and a really practiced hand could create an interesting effect on a gun part, but I'm not so sure about sort of random looking squiggles. It's probably just me.

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The visible pattern on the Bridgeport knee is flaking, not scraping. It is done on the finished surface to aid lubrication and reduce stick/slip. The actual scraping can be seen beneath the flaking, it appears as wider, straight marking.

Scraping is an iterative process on machine tools to produce precision surfaces. Flaking is a secondary operation.

The finish on the bolt in the OP appears to have been done as RM Bill described, for purposes unknown.


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