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Has anybody got experience with reflex or holographic sights on a double rifle?

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Considered it once for an old Sauer combination gun. Would have needed a rail to mount it. I decided it would look just too weird on a hundred year old sxs hammer-gun...Geo

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In Europe reflex sights are used on both drillings and DRs

The claw mounts on many guns make creating a rail mounted by claw possible.

I would not consider putting a reflex sight on a double that did not already have a claw system


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Thanks Geo.Newbern and Old Colone
Problem is what do you do if you want to shoot your double but eyesight is not good for iron sights anymore?

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Is your double rifle fitted with claw bases?
What sights are there now?
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If I had a double rifle and was considering a reflex site and mounting it, it would be either a Docter, a Docter clone or a Trijicon RMR. These are very small units, under 2 oz., but tough and reliable. With the Docter and its clones, the Burris Fast Fire 336 mount is a flush mount and the above sights screw directly to it making it low profile and without bulky Picatinny base and it dispenses with clamping. The Burris Fast Fire red dot is considerably less expensive than the Docter. Burris's customer service is unparalleled. Unlike the Docter and clones, the RMR depends on a Tritium lamp and fiber optics for illumination dispensing with batteries. The Docter and Fast Fire series have long lasting batteries and are reported to be good for 50,000 hours of continuous use. I am aware of some that have used the 336 mount and Fast Fire on double shot guns for turkeys where the payload is extremely tight and the shooter's eyes have trouble with conventional sights. I have been using reflex sites for about 20 years because of difficulties with blade, leaf and target acquisition. I have progressed from the bulkier to the smaller sights and am pleased with their performance on single barreled pumps, autos and break open single shots used for wild turkeys.

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My eyesight was what tempted me to consider a reflex. The gun/rifle has an original folding leaf rear sight. The cuts for the rear sights are so shallow I cannot seem to see them while aligning the front sight with the target.

After I discarded the idea of a reflex/rail system, I considered an adjustable ghost ring to be mounted in place of the folding leaf(s) on the dove-tail insert through the rib and just ran out of gas on the project. Anyone know who might be able to do this?...Geo

p.s.: I know that the adjustable ghost ring would interfere with shooting a turkey with the 12ga side of things, but I figure I can pattern the shotgun and see where the point of impact is in relation to the rifle sight.

note: I'd primarily hunt Turkey with this combination gun, but the 11mm .43 Mauser side would be nice for a "piney woods rooter".

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Yes, I use a reflex sight on many of my doubles. I like the Docter, Meopta, & Trijicon. They are very fast.

Meopta reflex on a V-C 450 NE




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Geo,
the distance from your eye to the rear sight or ghost ring is critical for good shooting. The way a ghost ring works it wants to be as close to your eye as practical while most older shooters do best with an open sight placed pretty far forward. You may consider a folding ghost ring in place of a top lever screw. This puts the ghost ring in the proper place so your eye can focus on the front sight with the added bonus of being able to fold it away for turkey. I can still use open sights but for how much longer I am unsure.
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George,
Take your combination gun to Pat Felix in Cusseta GA.(just outside Ft. Benning).A reflex sight is light enough that an unobtrusive base can be screwed to the rear section of the top rib. If you don't like it, the base can be removed and the screw holes filled to match the "matting" on the rib. I don't recall if you ever said where you live, but you must be within driving range of Cusseta.
Mike

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