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Just so everyone knows upfront, I am a die hard Fox aficionado but am not so faithful or closed minded as to not fondle/shoot lesser guns!
I just picked up a 16 Ga. NID with cocking indicators. unmolested, original wood and LOP, no dents or pitting in barrels, blue had some light surface rust but no pitting to speak of. original buttplate. no cracks, chips or splits. no case color. the price was cheap. This was at a Cabelas. I though I was reading the price tag wrong. Maybe I am off base but I would consider this Ithaca's equivalent to the Sterlingworth and Trojan. Is that the consensus?
If so, these seem to be a bargain compared to what Fox 16's are going for.
Or maybe my purchase was just an anomaly. Sort of like that Lefever DS 16 with ejectors I picked up 3 years ago for 350.00 from a large east coast shop.
So based on the collective knowledge of the board, am I wrong in lumping the NID Filed grades in with the Sterlingworth and Trojans?
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An Ithaca Field grade just does not bring the money that a Fox or a Parker does...Geo
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NIDs are undervalued for their utility, very strong but lacking the aesthetics of the Fox, the legend of the Parker and cult following of the Smith's. Fox and Uncle Dan's Lefever small bores are more expensive but what a joy they are to carry in the field and to shoot. Brian whoever priced your DS must have been looking at Nitro Special prices.
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I am sure they were but the tag said DS on it. They may have been confused but I didn't argue the point.
The NID does lack the aesthetics of the Fox but from a mechanical/labor cost/marketing standpoint I was under the assumption that the Filed NID is the Ithaca equivalent of a SW or Trojan.
And that is why I asked the question.
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Ithaca NID Field Grade 12-gauges are like Browning Superposed 12-gauges, great values in the current market, and they suck you in. Then you start wanting the other gauges, and that gets spendy -- http://www.gunsinternational.com/Ithaca-NID-Field-410-ga.cfm?gun_id=100342853In the year Ithaca Gun Co. introduced the NID, 1926, the Field Grade went for $37.50. That same year, the A.H. Fox Gun Co. dropped the price of their Sterlingworth to $36.50 --  
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Researcher,
It's amazing how you come up with all this history.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
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If I wanted to buy another American double shotgun it would be Ithaca NID. I like nicely cut rib tops and cocking indicators. I would pick Ithaca over Fox, Parker or L.C.Smith. Sadly Ithaca Gun often gets overlooked. Just recently fella bought Mossberg 590A1 instead of new Ithaca with extended magazine tube. The Ithaca 37 had tag of $499 which is very reasonable for what one actually gets.
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In 1936, the A&F catalog listed Ithaca and Elsie Field Grades, and the Fox SW, all within a few pennies of $43. The Trojan wasn't listed, but pretty sure it was a little higher.
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I think you have to first separate utility from esthetics.
The NISs were built on small, light frames, so they have the ability to be nice light field guns. The design is straight forward and reliable, and was obviously designed for ease of assembly and repair. Personally, I really like those little cocking indicators. Ithaca cut some of the best chokes out there. Yeah, they're undervalued.
As far as esthetics go, the NID is just a boxy lock gun compared to the other big three. There's no special attention to line. Until you get to the ejector grades, the exterior finish is not bad, but nothing special. I think if you closely look at a good example of a Parker, inside and out, and the others too, the general pecking order becomes clear.
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I did not have buyers knocking down my door a couple of years ago for this Ithaca NID 16 ga field grade with 26" bbls - later extractor gun w/o indicators. Sold it for what I had in it after about 6 yrs of little use. Stock dimensions as I believe were close to 3" DAH and I couldn't hit anything with it. It also carried a little heavy especially compared to my 16 ga Sterlingworth. 
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