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#333558 08/05/13 03:30 PM
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There doesn't seem to be much information readily available about this maker (I have read the ealier post on this site)so I thought I'd share and see what I can learn.

The gun is a SLE with 100%(?) engraving coverage consisting of many different styles of engraving.

Decorated with all the bells and whistles of the time:
- Ejectors (Deely)
- Side clips
- heel and toe plates

I do not recall ever seeing lock plates this shape, anyone else?

I look forward to your comments
















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Nice gun Mark,
This is an early back action lock. The bar part is not needed and allows more metal to stay on the action. The best H&H doublerifles are built that way.
This gun has the Webley look...Any number on the barrels forend loop or in the vicinity? (I would guess 8xxx or 9xxx)
I would say 1890s vintage...
The urn on the bottom of the action was fairly common on Manton guns. I don't know what it means, or what is the story behind it.
Best of luck with it!
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the fences and engraving are first class!


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Very nice looking gun. From the pictures it looks well preserved.

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Gentlemen, now we know what a gun with 100% engraving coverage looks like. Wow! Incredible artistic workmanship. The carving on the fences is outstanding. I agree, it could easily come from the works of Peter Webley. Certainly a product of Birmingham.


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I was sure that by now someone would post the info from the IGC on Jones. Hope it will appear soon.
Barring that Boothroyd gives him about 2/3 of a page in his " Directory"listing multiple addresses and four patents.
Doug Tate has a nice blurb on Jones including the development of his try gun in his book "Birmingham Gunmakers"
If you want photos of the pages pm your email to me and I'll get them off to you

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I am constantly amazed at the quality and detail of English guns. This one is beautiful.


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Mark,
A great find and a splendid example of best Birmingham work .
In his book ,Experts on Guns and Shooting, G.T.Teasdale Buckell, Chapter 14 [7 pages] is devoted to the work and inventions and In praise of W.P Jones.
Of special interest is Mr Jones skill as a gun fitter and his development of shooting schools as we know them today.


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Whoever made the stock of this gun could certainly wield a chisel.

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