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If someone would post the section that says that, I'd appreciate it. This came up a year or more ago and my memory of reading the appropriate section then looked to me like the faxing was only OK between FFL holders. I don't remember seeing that faxing a copy of the buyer's receiving FFL to a nonlicensee seller(in another state) was now acceptable.
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That was my question to Rick: I don't find any where that you even send a copy.. Just the regulation that you must ship to a dealer.. If I send a gun to Remington, are they going to send me a copy of their FFL, I dont think so .. MDC
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My apologies to all, now you know how long it's been since my FFL was current. I was unaware that the regulation changed. Back in the day, it had to be signed in ink. I still have all the old signed copies, but my bound book went back to the ATF. That was at least 10 years ago.
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That was my question to Rick: I don't find any where that you even send a copy.. Just the regulation that you must ship to a dealer.. If I send a gun to Remington, are they going to send me a copy of their FFL, I dont think so .. MDC thats true, of course when you have an compliance inspection the ATF seeing Remington Arms in the bound book will not have the same effect as "Joes Gunshop" thats why the copy (signed in ink not longer required") of the FFL keeps them happy I suspect. If in doubt you can call (I did one time with a Pawn Shop one just to clairify and they checked to be sure it was a real one and if there where any problems )or look on the web site to be sure with 01's (I don't think the 03 C&Rs are on line)
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Dave. The original poster is dealing with an individual, he's not required to keep a bound book or any records for that matter.. I don't think there is an ATF law that requires you to hae a copy of a FFL, in order to ship a gun out of state...I think we're confusing laws with acceptable practices..MDC
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Like I said, the regulation (CFR) didn't change, what changed is what ATF considers acceptable evidence that you have done due diligence to comply with the regulation.
On that point, if you use the online database to verify a FFL, you might want to print the page. If that data mysteriously disappears from their website, you don't have anything to back your claim you verified the FFL
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