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I've been considering buying a Perazzi Mirage trap gun. Both the upper and lower barrels appear to be Pro-ported. Does anyone know if porting really works at diminishing actual recoil, perceived recoil and muzzle jump or does it just take a nice gun and devalue it? Also, I have always wondered if there was a barrel obstruction distal to or beyond the ports, such as snow, mud or a wad, if the porting would help prevent a barrel bulge? Thanks for your opinion. Addendum: Is there any scientificic evidence porting actually reduces the force of recoil or is it only perceived recoil? Also, an observation I have made while trap shooting, and this phenomenon seems worse with trap doubles....if there is a strong headwind, i.e., wind blowing in your face....20 knots or greater, then serious smoke is blown into one's face and eyes. To me this is a serious detriment and offsets much gain from other benefit, such as reduction in perceived recoil.
Last edited by buzz; 07/25/11 10:45 PM. Reason: clarification
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i had two o/u ported,in my humble opinion it worked.a beretta sporting clays that i still shoot when i `m not shooting lc`s had forcing cones and porting to both barrels.it does help with muzzle jump and also think it does with recoil.i`msure you will get many responces telling otherwise but htat`s what i think. tom
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Yes, it works Yes, it is ugly Yes, I do NOT own a ported gun except for the EIGHT Cutts guns in my stable
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I have a ported 12 ga. Citori, and another that is not. I don't perceive much difference in recoil or muzzle jump between the two shotguns. I use both for sporting clays and skeet.
I wouldn't pay to have one ported. Likewise, I wouldn't pass on a shotgun purchase just because it was ported.
In my opinion, not much difference.
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In a shotgun, not much.
In a rifle, a lot.
It's all about the weight and velocity of the gas being redirected.
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Shotgunjones hit the nail square on the head. The total recoil is based on the weight of the total ejecta, which includes the powder gases & the velocity it is ejected. The percentage of the powder charge in proportion to the projectile is much lower in a shotgun than most centerfire rifles, plus the rifle will normally have a higher muzzle pressure than the shotgun. Porting works by diverting gasses which would normally eject forward being diverted outward, thus not adding to the recoil. In a shotgun though the portion of the recoilbrought on by the powder gasses is much lower than in the rifle, so not as much to work with there, & you won't get it all anyway.
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I agree with everything said above. Not much more to say.
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I don't think it helps much in actual recoil as mentioned above, but it can help in felt recoil by not getting popped as hard in the cheek. I think there's a real value to decreased muzzle jump in just about any clay target doubles game.
From what I know, there's a bunch more surface area on most shotgun porting than rifle porting. So, I believe there is compensation for the decreased velocity of the redirected gasses by bleeding off more.
Lately, I'd rather bird hunt and can't stand porting in general, but when I shot a lot of doubles trap, it made a huge difference.
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I had 2 sets of the same barrel configuration. 1 barrel I had the lower barrel ported, you're not going to notice anything until you move up into pigeon loads. Between 4 shooters we coldn't notice anyting with clay loads that included Handicap loads also. Once we got into the 3.5drm loads there was less muzzle jump, with the 3 3/4drm loads yep. But I gave them up years ago, at the end of the day it's a waste.
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