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doubleornothin Here's my post from above:

"Don't expect an answer from the closet gun grabbers who do post here. Every time this issue comes up they either ignore it or try to change the subject or get the whole discussion buried in some obscure area by whining that it has nothing to do with shotguns to those in charge here."

The gun grabbers spent pages on inane posts back when the elections were going on and,not once, were they ever able to state anything sensible or directly respond to any pointed questions. The truth is gun laws do nothing to decrease crime but the Socialists don't care about crime what they care about is control. Every legitimate study ever conducted verifies this. Left wing socialist don't care about the truth here because they want guns out of the hands of civilians period. That has been their goal for as long as I can remember. In order to establish A true Socialist regime here under Obama you have to disarm the population so there can be no resistance. Previous socialist dictators like Hitler and Stalin clearly understood this. Remember the Gun Control Act of 1968 was copied almost verbatun from the Nazi Regimes firearms laws by Sen. Dodd(Conn-D).
Left wing socialists don't want to discuss firearms ownership with you; they just want your guns so they can forge ahead with their agenda.
Diane Feinstein back during the Clinton Presidency: "If I had the votes Mr & Mrs America to pass the legislation to pick them(Firearms) ALL up tomorow I would introduce it"(This is a paraphrase of her statement). The White House is under Socialist control, Congress is under Left Wing Liberal control. The Supreme Court is one vote away from also being under Left Wing Liberal control.
One more liberal in the Supreme Court and Diane Feinstein can accomplish just what she has stated.
I think this paints an accurate picture of what is transpiring.

Update: For the record this is Feinsteins exact statement in regards to her views on civilian firearms ownership:

Senator Dianne Feinstein:
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out-right ban, picking up every one of them... 'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,' I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here." CBS-TV's "60 Minutes", February 5, 1995

This is what NONE of the closet gun grabbers that post here want to address and her beliefs are shared by many Socialists in Congress including Ted Kennedy,Barbara Boxer, Charles Schumer,Barney Frank just to name a few. This is the REAL agenda of the Socialists in this Country. So anyone here who thinks they're safe because they only own shotguns in living in a delusional state of mind.
Jim

If the call for banning comes Robt.Harris,I will loudly defend yours,and my, right to name names of those who sold us out and now hide or ignore the light of of the train comming to take them all.
Dave Weber has been great and let us keep this subject where it should be in spite of attemtps ("not to be political") to turn this into a moved thread !!

Gentlemen:

In life there has always been:

"PEOPLE WHO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN"

"PEOPLE WHO WATCH THINGS HAPPEN"

and "PEOPLE WHO wonder WHAT HAPPENED" ---these last ones voted for
Obama

Best Regards,

Dave K:
I agree and commend Dave Webber for not caving in to a vocal minority. I was also surprised to learn that neither Nancy Pelosi nor Harry Reid support the AG Holders new weapons ban(THIS PLOY REQUIRES MUCH MORE INDEPTH STUDY AND ANALYSIS). On the surface;I suspect they did learn something from the 1994 mid-term election fiasco for the Democrats.
Jim

If it is true, that the Nancy and Harry show didn't agree with Holder's statements, wouldn't this be time to ditch the role of being a counterpuncher?

These two first and formost are politicians and the older I get the more jaded my views become in regard to politicians true intentions. The smarter Democrats know they made a stupid blunder with the feel good do nothing Clinton weapons ban and in the end it cost them dearly at the polls. Firearms are on the back burner for all but the most dedicated enthusiasts at the moment since at this time as the average person is far more concerned about losing their home,job,security,the economy etc. I suspect these two are reluctant to awaken a sleeping giant which constitutes the vast majority of gun owners in this Country.
We can NEVER let our guard down and I can tell you outfits like Handgun Control Inc. are working furiously at this time to further their real aim of an eventual total firearms ban. I know this because I monitor their activities.
Jim

The mindlessness of much of this thread is breath-taking -- as is the name calling and aspersions cast toward the "Left".
I voted for Obama. He's articulate and intelligent, something sadly lacking in the previous eight years. It's nice to have a President who can speak in complete sentences.
If you listened to him on Tuesday in his address to Congress and the American people, what more do you need to know?
I'm a gun owner. And I believe in sensible gun control.
Turn your major question around. Why would any of you vote for anyone else? Why would any of you have voted for two terms of George Bush? Now THAT'S incomprehensible.
Good luck to all of you, and all best wishes.

What do you consider "sensible gun control?"Be specific please.

I am afraid that the AWB only becomes a issue of interest for the administration if they need a straw man issue to beat up to take peoples minds off the economy or their general failings.

If the economy gets worse, or if the 800 billion spent so far, oops make that 1.5 trillion, oops make that two or three trillion, or more, does not get the economy back in high gear then expect them to push several issues to the front to try to make it look like they are busy taking care of real important issues. National health care, new gun control, immigration reform and tax hikes on the rich, (anyone who makes a dollar and sends in more taxes than they get back), are all fair game. After all, every politicians first and only real job is to get re-elected to do the peoples work.

Will S.

Obama can read a great telly prompter. Off the cuff he is far worse than Bush and might be dumber than Quayle. Can you count the number of huhs, uhhs and double speak as he tries to think of what he was told to say. He failed to answer a total of six question in an hour in his last news conference. Clinton, either Bill of Hillary ,would have answered three times the number, well in the same time. Off the cuff the man is an idiot. Bill Clinton is ten times the speaker that Obama is. The faster you learn that the emperors is naked the better. In fact, I suspect that the press will soon question what he knows and who told him what he thinks. He is another Jimmy Carter.

Chains you can believe in!

bill