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I though as much, but I have never seen one stamped "FIELD".
Thanks.

Yup, Deluxes come in several flavors and are stamped that way on the floorplate. I think some are just stamped Deluxe. I'm glad shotgunjones brought up the Cody letter source and replacement mentioned the Models 42 and 12. I'll check that one out. As I said, though, no catalog from 1930 to the end of standard production mentions Skeet Grade Model 21s. I'll keep looking.

I haven't heard mtwoodson say why the gun was "billed" as a skeet gun. Or what the chokes were. ...... I have seen one Deluxe Field and there was one person on here several years ago that had one, but he hasn't been on in some time. Many of the Deluxe Field Grades were stamped as such because the pistol grip was not only checkered but the side panels were checkered, too. That is the only difference I have heard of between the two.

I maintain an extensive collection of Winchester paper and a seperate collection of Model 21 paper of which I believ I have every paper on the Model 21 shotgun.
I conducted an extensive review yesterday and no where is 'SKEET Grade' refered to.



The above is from a Winchester issue 'Your gun for SKEET' dated 1933 and references the SKEET gun and Tournament, Trap and Custom Built Grades. I think it safe to assume that what Schwing refers to as 'SKEET Grade' is what most of us call a 'SKEET' gun and so marked on the floorplate.
In any event, the SKEET Model 21 with Sk1 and Sk2 chokes in any Grade is one of the most useful of all Model 21's.-Dick

I'm so confused. Schwing claims that 1936 was the first year for the Skeet Grade as a grade unto itself, and shows a picture of the catalog.
The final inspection report on my gun specifies the finish as "Skeet"

The picture on page 109 of Schwings book shows what is referred to in the catalog as 'SKEET Gun'. Nowhere in the catalog is 'SKEET Grade' used.
It's possible that Winchester factory individuals called the 'SKEET Gun' a 'SKEET Grade' but there is no paper that I find available to the public that referred to a 'SKEET Grade'.
-Dick

The 1939 price list lists a skeet gun at $116.25 and a standard with single trigger and ejectors at $104.75 add $3.30 for checkered butt and $8.20 for beavertail and it comes to $116.25.

Also checking my material, the 1932 catalog list only skeet guns in Tournament, Trap and Custom Grades and my 1935 price list only lists these guns. My 1938 price list lists a Standard skeet at $111.25 and a Trap Grade Skeet at $144.25.THe Tournament had been droped.

Back to the orignal Question I wonder if the skeet marked guns with choked barrels were put out after the war just to get guns out to the public.

AC

1932 Hunting & Fishing with mention of the Skeet Gun



Same era Winchester Score Sheet

My gun is a 1956 gun. Wonder why the inspection sheet refers to the finish as "Skeet"?

Because the finish and options were different. "Skeet finish" would usually include checkered butt, cap on pistol grip, maybe a bit of figure in the wood, possibly minor extra care in finishing. Dick's research tells the same story as mine did and mentioned in an earlier post. No mention of Skeet Grade in any Model 21 catalog or price list from 1930 to the end of the standard era in 1960.