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Posted By: HalfaDouble A somewhat different German single - 08/29/17 04:19 PM
This 9.3x74R has been my hunting rifle for many years. It was marketed by H. Scherping in Hannover whom I believe was usually known for upmarket goods. The proofs are the standard B, U, G, and crown over N. The Krupp Stahl barrel carries the 108/49 bore gauge mark and the 3.5g GBP over St.m.G standard proof load for the 9.3x74R. The combination of these marks I believe points to a fairly early date in the 20th century. It has some features which strike me as a little unusual such as the half round barrel with a full length swamped rib with a flip up moon sight; the tang safety; the stock butt finished in the round without a buttplate; the horn part of the pistol grip which is inletted into the stock; the nontypical engraving (at least as I see it); and well, the action itself. The action is basically a Germanized Fraser. Take a Fraser with the side lever off and add an attachment point for an underlever to the trigger plate with a simple link to the breech block, replace the stock through bolt with normal screws in tangs, and, of course, add double set triggers and voila! Does anyone have any information to add on this action?
Posted By: skeettx Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/29/17 09:03 PM
Sounds great, pictures would assist us in matching it with other guns
Mike
Posted By: HalfaDouble Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/29/17 09:17 PM
I have photos but no way to post them:-(
Posted By: canvasback Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/29/17 10:20 PM
Originally Posted By: HalfaDouble
I have photos but no way to post them:-(


By that do you mean that the photos are hard copies and not a digital file or you don't know and aren't interested in learning how to post photos in a forum?
Posted By: Der Ami Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/29/17 10:56 PM
HalfaDouble,
With those proofmarks, it was made between 1893 and 1912.
Mike
Posted By: HalfaDouble Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/29/17 11:49 PM
Thanks, Mike, I was figuring 1st decade of the century. Canvasback, I have digital images and post them on sites that have direct downloads but I have no URL directed site available to me and don't really want to get involved in attaching myself to one.
Posted By: ellenbr Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/30/17 01:01 AM
Sounds like a Johann Kalezky? Does it resemble this:


http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv337...zpsd2rxoon4.jpg

http://s697.photobucket.com/user/ellenbr...rxoon4.jpg.html

????

Forward the images to me & I'll get them in view.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/30/17 01:52 AM
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv337...zpsprnjkmk7.jpg


http://s697.photobucket.com/user/ellenbr...njkmk7.jpg.html



Let me know if this cannot be viewed. It seems that Photobucket is attempting to block the direct link also? It appears if you do not have a Photobucket account or are not logged-in that you cannot view the image.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: HalfaDouble Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/30/17 04:13 AM
Nope, Raimey. Looks like you've been Photobucketed to "Update your account". Guess that is why many folks have left Photobucket in disgust. I'll send you my jpegs and I'd like to see yours.
Posted By: ellenbr Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/30/17 11:17 AM
Yeah, I think those w/ a Photobucket account can see. Also yes it is the Alex Henry / Johann Kalezky type action. I'll put these on my Photobucket account and will forward any image if that is allowed or permission granted?


Cheers,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/30/17 11:29 AM
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv337...zps4ir3hvvr.jpg

http://s697.photobucket.com/user/ellenbr...ueyz4z.jpg.html

Above is an image of the left side of the frame, if it can be viewed.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/30/17 05:04 PM
Here's a pertinent thread less the images, of course:

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=315068

I'll dig those images out.

http://s697.photobucket.com/user/ellenbr...0bd9ec.jpg.html

Cheers,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Der Ami Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/30/17 06:42 PM
Raimey,
The photos won't open up- no account.
Mike
Posted By: ellenbr Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/30/17 07:31 PM
All right. Correct, Fraser action, Daniel M. Fraser not Alex Henry.

http://s697.photobucket.com/user/ellenbr...0bd9ec.jpg.html

Cheers,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: HalfaDouble Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/30/17 08:07 PM
Raimey, I was able to see the pictures using these links: your Kalezky Henry here http://www.hunting-heritage.com/blog/ind...fbuchsenmacher/ and my "Fraser" here http://s697.photobucket.com/user/ellenbrs/library/Heinrich%20Scherping?sort=3&page=1
Thank you for your information on Kalezky.
Posted By: HalfaDouble Re: A somewhat different German single - 08/31/17 11:23 PM
Out of curiosity today I looked up the Fraser action in Single Shot Rifles and Actions and compared his measurements of action and sidewall thickness with my rifle's. They matched to within .01 inch so if it wasn't made from an actual Fraser action it was an excellent copy. The 9.3 Krupp Stahl barrel was home grown and well made as it will shoot 250 grain Speers sub MOA at 100 yards.
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