A windbag keyboard bully named “keith”,
Vomits bile and ill-will through his teeth,
Non-stop he belittles an octogenarian’s life’s work,
Stooped anonymous in the shadows an offensive jerk,
Spewing up a cowardly legacy to bequeath.

Or just Cowardly Lying

G il Sta cy, Savannah, GA

Good stuff G il, short and oozey.

Hey G il,
when I get to be a octogenarian can I just use "look it up" after I make stuff up to further the cause or does that only work for
"progressives" (aka socialists) ?
Just asking.

I think if a man is going to drag someone who for over a decade signs his real name through the mud like you know who, the manly thing to do is tell everyone who you are. Fair play. He's been doing it for years. You don't have to agree with King, but really, does keith have to behave the way he does? When you get to be an octogenarian I hope folks treat you with a little more decency and don't character assassinate you, but then you aren't the one with every post calling King a liar. Maybe its just me who feels this way. I don't think half the slime slung on this site would be done if it weren't for anonymous screen names.

Gil

Nope, this is just opinion. It doesn't make you more or less of a man to have the opinion. In my opinion, the comment just oozes with unsolicited testosterone. Just kidding around G il, most of us just have our own little styles.

Let me see if I understand this:
We have someone here who posts as GLS.
However he is complaining about another who just uses his 1st name - Keith.
I'd guess the "manly" thing would be for GLS to tell everyone who he is! Perhaps he'd like to post his address and phone # as well.
I expect this is as good an example of "Libtard Logic" as you'll find.
One set of rules for them and another set of rules for everyone else.
Jim

There once was a guy from the North
Who assailed us with Whoppers of course
A man from the South
Said quit running off at the mouth
And now it's all his fault henceforth

Jim, put your glasses on. I signed my name. If I am going to say what I say about someone's malevolent conduct I am not going to hide behind a lcd screen like you or keith. Gil Stacy, Savannah, GA.

Gil, there are always a few in any group who on hearing of others living more interesting lives say it must be a lie. They fill their empty lives with denigration: She can’t be what she says she is. She couldn't have done those things. They offer no evidence to back up their words. Fear and anger are behind it. They can’t tolerate their opinions being challenged. I'm grateful to the majority of members engaging in healthy give-and-take. They keep me here.

I'm a little surprised at Jim. Not so much his partner in slime. Gil

Jim has a good heart with senior responsibilities in his community, I've said often in private correspondence with members. He gets really peeved but we all do at times.

I must be really getting dense in my old age. I sign my posts with my real name which is Jim. You just signed your posts with what I'm assuming is your real name Gil.
Just how many Jim's and Gil's are there in this world? Unless G il St acy is in fact your name! I guess the unusual spacing initially fooled me.
I could go you one better and provide audio and video of me on TV doing firearms appraisals but my family would have a bird if I did so here.
If I had a relatively common last name that crooks couldn't easily use to look up my home address with the knowledge that I have firearms I would do so with no qualms at all. We have no real idea as to who exactly is monitoring this forum.

Oh well: Back to curing this year's olive crop!
Jim

Jim, I'm not sure if you know this but people often do what Gil did to his name, add those spaces, to make it more difficult for automated programs combing the net to figure out it is actually a name.

It's the same thing as when sometimes on secure sites you have to type in the displayed code letters that are difficult to read. We can read it but machines can't.

Yes James I see that on sites like Craigslist.
However I've never seen it here until now.
Jim

We, Gil and I, have been down this road before. I, and others, have explained to this dim bulb why I/we choose to not post our full names. Gil is not surprisingly back again in an attempt to defend one of his fellow liberals.

We will never, for example see Gil defend Jim from one of anonymous Replacement's attacks on him. I could go on with further examples of his blatant hipocrisy, but any idiot can see what's really behind this.

I have stated my opinions about the liberal socialist octagenarian King, and cited dozens of examples of his dishonesty, intentionally misleading dogma, and unverifiable bloviation and bullshit. It wouldn't bother me nearly so much if it wasn't coupled with anti-Second Amendment views which have no place on a website devoted to firearms. As far as the age thing and respect for an octagenarian, respect is earned, and in all likelihood, an eighty year old liar was a forty year old liar four decades ago. At what age do we get a pass for dishonesty Gil?

“Liar” you say, more than once we chew
Just saying it only once or twice, oh, no, not you
Your “drive by” shooter’s courage, your trait
Your non-stop avalanche of obsessive berate
Is a sure sign of a loose screw or two.

This has nothing to do with liberal vs. conservative, etc. It has all to do about your conduct. When you and nca stunk up the board with your childish, moronic homophobic and sexual insults, I called both of you on it. Both of you should have been booted. Things just don't smell as bad when your malevolence is absent from the board. You are special.

This ranks right at the top as the stupid'st chit I've ever read.

Now this is interesting. When you did your last defense of your fellow Liberal, King, and I noted that you always ignored much more egregious behavior against Conservatives, you were in denial. I pointed out how you gave a pass to nca225's crude filthy vulgar misogynist sexual comments which he made about my daughters, and only then did you rebound with your feigned disapproval of him. Not surprisingly, King Brown was the only other one here who excused nca225's filthy remarks, and he even suggested that I should forgive him. This from a dishonest sleaze who often accused Mitt Romney and other Republicans of misogyny.

Looks to me as if liars of a feather flock together. Hey, that rhymes just like Gil's poetry!

Bugger off you petty hypocrite. As the rules say, if you don't like it, don't read it. But if I've gotten under your skin, I'm a happy guy. Your discontent is added insurance that I'll continue calling out liberal liars and anti-gun trolls who have nothing but admiration, respect, and support for the Liberal Democrat politicians who continually infringe upon our 2nd Amendment rights.

BTW Jim, Gil did provide his full name the last time he got his panties in a knot and I noted several times that he too had been posting anonymously under the GLS tag. Only then did he come out of his closet. I guess I'll take him at his word that his name really is Gil St acey. As you may recall, Gil's fellow lawyer Geo Newbern told us that the name he uses here is a fake name. Smart man. In my opinion, an intelligent gun collector does not put his full name on the internet and place his family at risk of burglary or home invasion.

Am I implying something about Gil's intelligence?

Keith:
As I said earlier I'll believe him when he posts his address and telephone number!
I also re-stated,AGAIN, why I don't use my full name here.
Homeless jOe; who also doesn't use his real name summed up the Libtard comments in this thread more than adequately above.
:)Jim

Jim, I'll attribute the above to forgetfulness rather than untruthfulness. Otherwise, why did you send me 75 lbs. of lead shot in April 2011 in exchange for my check and mailed it to my name and address? I still have the 3 boxes with your little mailing label on them. I am who I say I am. Don't fret. I'm not going to post where you live or who you are. Can't say that about what the Low Blowhard would do.
jOe, you did me a favor and I'll let this pass. I try to repay favors and fxxxings in kind. Gil

You're right it's forgetfullness. How much detail do you remember from a transaction from 3 years ago? Hope the shot worked out for you. It wasn't mine and I took care of selling it for a lady from our church whose husband had died. I hope you sent Dave $10?
As an aside: I believe I got all 75 lbs "If it fits it ships" into one post office box. I looked at this as customer revenge!
Jim

'course you'll let this pass... again. Same as last time, you put your easily demonstrable and transparent true motives and hypocrisy on full display. I hope you aren't a criminal defense attorney. I'd assume the vast majority of your clients would be convicted, because, in my opinion, they'd have a fool for a lawyer. About as honest as Libtard attorney Dave-In-Maine who swore up and down that he was against Obama... until I reproduced some quotes from his posts that bashed Bush and supported Obama. Well shut my mouth!

I really need a more challenging Liberal intellect to spar with... ed good, where are you?

keith fancies himself a 2nd amendment hero
He fiddles non-stop on a keyboard, a modern day Nero,
Obsessively calling a man a liar without attaching his own name
Like a ball-less eunuch he slanders without shame
With a manly courage rated forty below zero

We should be so lucky.

Almost as much fun as telling the clerk there is a gun in the package and watch them dance around way to make up rules that don't exist for shipping USPS

Forgetfulness? I'm still looking for an 870 that I hid somewhere in the house because of gun safe triage. Jim, you had to send it in 3 boxes. Could've put two in one but something snafued. I've still got your three boxes. I hand loaded some 16 gauge shorts for snipe with it. Works great 3/4 to 7/8 oz. Thanks, again. Gil

I told you my 3 year old memory was an issue. My wife, who I just asked, says it was 2 flat rate boxes 50lbs in 1 and 25lbs in the other. All I can remember is putting the boxed shot on the counter and watching the clerk grunt as they moved it off to the back.
Glad the shot worked out for you.
BTW: I shipped something more hefty then this last year. 3 Ponsness Warner shotshell loaders each of which I believe topped 50 lbs. I used a hand cart to bring them into the post office
Jim

I really do appreciate the opportunity to further display some of King's many lies thanks to the efforts of Keyboard Cowboy Gil, who, in a concerted effort to protect a fellow Liberal, has been slinging his own red Georgia mud from behind his LCD computer screen. Here again, thanks to Gil bringing up the subject of King's many lies, is a recent post I made, #381310, that reproduced just three of King's recent lies. This from the "NYT Admits Iraq Had WMD" thread:



King himself defines a lie as saying something one knows not to be true. Yet he does it all the time. It would be both wrong and cowardly of me to repeatedly call King a LIAR without proof or cause. King graciously provides plenty, and I have reproduced numerous examples of his own words. When caught in his lies, he simply moves on to continue lying in another thread, never acknowledging that he was wrong. Ken61 has recognized King's pathological lying and subsequent denial as religious statist "Takiyya", or "lying for the faith", where the ends justify the means. Apologies for dragging you into this fray Ken, but you and I are hardly the only ones who recognize King's frequent dishonesty which Gil would like us to ignore or accept.

GLS has made the choice to defend this mentally ill behavior, and expects to halt my illumination and criticism of it. I think we all understand his motivations. I only wish there was some way to test if Keyboard Cowboy Gil would have the balls to says the things he says about me directly to my face instead of from behind his own LCD display from a thousand miles away, alleged full name notwithstanding. Having seen the photos of him that he has posted here, I personally don't think so. Octogenarian King actually looks tougher to me. Seriously. But then again, there are plenty of little guys who run off at the mouth without anything to back it up.

Because deep inside his character is askant
He won’t stop smearing, he just can’t
His “drive-by” courage, his personality trait
That keeps him spewing his monomaniac hate,
Like a back-biting pest, a spineless piss ant.

After reading your last post, you have gone beyond the Wizard of Ooze, and Cowardly Lying. You sound shrill, as if someone threw a bucket of water on you, the Wicked Witch, "I am melting.." Take another vacation.

Keith, you know my opinion of the main point of this thread so I won't bore you or anyone else on that subject.

But, IMHO you have veered into indefensible territory with the testosterone laden call out of GLS as quoted above. Why? Because the facts are GLS has the balls to identify himself, clearly and numerous times. He does not hide behind Internet anonymity.

Now, you, and others, have perfectly understandable and rational reasons for remaining anonymous online. As gun owners, we all get that. But suggesting that you somehow are brave enough to say what you say here in a face to face confrontation while GLS would not is not backed up by the facts as evidenced on line.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying you wouldn't be as straightforward in the flesh as you are here. But the evidence strongly suggests GLS would be as well.

GLS doesn't hide behind anything. We know his name, his state, what he looks like and his opinions. And he has pointed out that Jim, and likely others, know his address.

You, we know your opinions and that's about all. I would encourage you to stay on topic and leave the references about who has the bigger balls elsewhere until you are ready to match GLS in levels of personal disclosure on this site.

Keith is sick.

Quote:
"GLS doesn't hide behind anything. We know his name, his state, what he looks like and his opinions. And he has pointed out that Jim, and likely others, know his address."

I had his address at one time 3 years ago to ship him some shot he bought. As soon as he received it his address and personal information would have been purged from my files.
We only have one list of addresses that are maintained permanently and that is our Christmas card listing.
Jim

Jim, I think everyone wants to define the world through their own experience. Brains are designed to make decisions based on experience. Each of us believes there's a paucity of critical thinking of issues. Reasonable members disagreeing with others don't threaten or impugn their integrity. It's human to err.

My scanner broke down on fifth page of article you asked for. I'll buy another today and see if I can make a document to send to a maestro to configure for the thread plus a national telecast last year of my work. I put members on notice for the telecast and also cited other sources confirming my work.

Normally those who accuse are obliged to prove. I have asked for evidence of lying about anything I've written. All I've received is conjecture, supposition and hypothesis and surpassing ignorance of the craft of journalism. It doesn't bother me but feel we'd have a fairer forum with less slander and more substance.

I'm sure that true Jim. My points were that GLS has had no difficulty giving out his address when appropriate and I used you as an example. I also was pointing out the GLS was reminding us he had given you his address and so, if you had so been inclined to save it, the possibility exists that you still know it.

BTW, I don't save them either. My tendency is towards packratism and I have to work daily to ensure I am not overwhelmed by an avalanche of bits of paper. LOL! Prolly why I have an ex wife, not a wife. Haha.

James et al:
I receive on average 1000 emails a month. I only retain the latest 3 months and on the 1st of the month I delete the oldest months accumulation.
Once in a great while I have to go back and reference an older email but it's rare.
What I really need to do is go thru my picture file and do some maintenance.
Jim

Woe is me. You're not trying to drum up sympathy, here? Why so certain about lying, could that just be conjecture also. This could be a tough crew to lobby.

James, I did not call out GLS, or make any physical testosterone laden challenge to him. I merely made the observation and my personal opinion that he would not be so brave in the same room as me as he is 1000 miles away hiding behind his LCD screen. You are welcome to feel I went into indefensible territory, but you would be wrong. What I wish is light years away from the type of thing which you are claiming, and that which would be a violation of the rules here. I know better than that, and so do you.

You would encourage me to stay on topic? The topic here is me, and my habit of illuminating the many lies of King Brown. The fact that I give attention to any other Liberal's lies here apparently does not matter. The purpose of this is to give amnesty to King's lies because he is beyond the Gil's age limit requirement for truthfulness. This has given GLS cause to refer to me as a ball-less eunuch, cowardly, spineless, lacking of courage or character, being a bully and a jerk, etc., etc. Somehow, all of that character assassination has escaped your studious scrutiny. Or somehow in your mind, that becomes OK for GLS but not for me, all because he has posted his last name and I have made the decision to not advertise my status as a gun collector to every thief and crack-head trolling the internet. Maybe you ought to post your full name and address before you criticize me.

But that's all OK with me. Your boy, in his initial post here, said this:



In spite of all of Gil's own bile, venom, and personal slander, he has not, and cannot, show us even one time where a lie of King's that I pointed out was in fact factual. He has called me a cowardly liar, but has not produced those alleged lies. He simply does not want me to either point out King's lies or to call King a liar for so frequently lying to us. He wishes to protect a liar, and he thinks he is going to either embarrass or intimidate me into stopping. That is not going to happen. Gil can write slanderous little poems until the cows come home. And the moronic Replacement can also continue to attempt to protect his fellow Libtards.

WE INTERRUPT THIS THREAD FOR A LIAR ALERT>>>>>>>>>LIAR ALERT>>>>>>>>>LIAR ALERT>>>>>>



The above quote from King Brown is in itself another of his many lies. In the same post, King also dishonestly mentions threats made by someone without any evidence of same. He will say anything to either pump up or salvage his credibility. I have provided evidence on many occasions of things King said that he knew not to be true. So have others. I provided not one, but three examples of King's dishonesty in my last post within this thread. King has the mentally ill ability to ignore that and simply dance away to another thread to tell more lies and tall tales. Apparently, "ignorance of the craft of journalism" means that King can say something with obvious intent on one day, and flip it to a whole new meaning when he is called on it. Not unlike Bill Clinton being able to swear under oath because of the warped ability to deny that getting a blow-job fell under the category of sex. But there's a caveat... King appears to me to be a pathological liar who has the ability to be in complete denial of his untruthfulness. What he calls "conjecture, supposition, or hypothesis" has in most instances been his own words quoted verbatim.

I again thank GLS for the forum to keep King's dishonesty front and center.

In that case, have another:

King Brown’s a liar, keith proclaims as if natural law,
He anonymously charges as he juts out his jaw,
But he’s behind the lcd screen under an anonymous name
He pillories and lambasts a man without any shame
That he won’t sign his real name is a coward’s flaw.

One word for you and your keyboard: Imodium.

I don't just "proclaim King's a liar", as you say. I provide evidence to back up my charges and my opinions. How about you Keyboard Cowboy?

You've got nothing... but the will to give amnesty to a liar and fellow Libtard.

Ok GlS:
As I see it; your approach here is to continue to vilify Keith who just made a sensible intelligent post regarding K Browns distortion of the truth.
Believe me you'll win no converts here taking that typical leftest approach that when you can't refute the truth attack the individual who provides the facts.
I am surprised you would even attempt this!
And James I'm doubly surprised you're apparently going along with this as well.
Jim

I often smear with my favorite word liar,
I stay up at night and type my attacks until I perspire,
My view is right and I am willing to fight,
As long as I am anonymous with my mask on tight,
I hope no notices it is my pants that are on fire.

No, Jim. Keith does a good job of vilifying himself. Keith is a malevolent bully--standard issue.
No one's life on this forum is as open a book as King's. Yet keith through innuendo and directly has questioned everything the man did 40-50 years ago because he can't find it on Google. Why doesn't keith let someone mine his past? There is no leftist vs. right agenda. Just calling out keith for who he is. He might be a nice man. His record on this forum just doesn't substantiate it. Keith enjoys a rock fight as long as no one throws rocks at him.

Jim, GLS is simply providing us with a perfect example of what Liberal Democrats do when they cannot refute facts. If King was black, he'd be calling me a racist. If King was a woman, I'd be a misogynist. Since King is a white male octogenarian liar, bloviator, and resume inflator, he has to settle for calling me other names because that's all he has to offer.



I never denied that King had an abbreviated career a a field reporter for the CBC, or as a newpaper reporter with no formal Journalism degree, or as a co-coordinator for NSLFFPA, etc. It's the wanton exaggeration of his importance and positions, and the wild and totally unverifiable claims he makes that are obviously intended to lend credence to his dishonest assertions and outright lies. GLS dishonestly tries to describe my efforts to verify many of King's wild claims as some cursory Google Search. There is no real reason to mine my past because I have not made any wild claim to be something that I am not. I am a Conservative registered No Party Affiliation white male member of the NRA who is tired of anti-gun trolls and folks who purport to be pro-gun, but constantly lie for, and provide support and cover for, anti-gun anti-Second Amendment Liberal Left Democrats who are the major source of infringement upon our Constitutional RKBA. That is King Brown in a nutshell, but he is hardly the only one.

The motives of those who wish to give amnesty to his lies and exaggerations is suspect as well. If King Brown did not wish to have his past examined, he should not have made so many wild and totally unverifiable claims. The fact that he has offered, but not yet delivered, to scan and post some examples of his writing and his last year of CBC video means nothing. I've probably already seen it and I've never denied any of it. I will go so far as to reassure everyone here that it does exist even if King never posts it. Thousands of low to mid-level journalists can do as well or better. I'd like to see a picture of him wrestling with Martin Luther King, in an intimate setting with JFK, RFK, and Teddy... devoid of a scad of other journalists merely doing their jobs, rapping with Fidel Castro, seated at lunch with Jackie Kennedy, ad nauseum...I'd like proof that there are Catholic clerics in Nova Scotia who will baptize adult converts who do not believe in the Ressurection. I'm not holding my breath waiting for a liar to deliver.

First Jim. I'm not entering into the conversation regarding anything but Keith inferring GLS would likely not be as forthright in person as he is behind a keyboard. That he is hiding behind internet anonymity. And that is patently not true. GLS is not anonymous for anyone who cares to look while his accuser, in this case, chooses to remain anonymous.

Second, to Keith. To be utterly clear, when I used the term "call out" I was simply and only using that phrase in reference to the idea of who, based on evidence here on DGBB in the form of posts made over the years, might be likely to be as straightforward in a real life discussion as they are in an on line discussion. No other behavior was suggested, advised or encouraged.

You may, in fact, be willing to be as straightforward in the flesh as you are here (I suspect you would be) but in comparison to GLS, the evidence here doesn't support it. GLS is prepared to sign his name (figuratively) to all he says here. You are not. Plain and simple.

You have a good and smart rational but we aren't talking about good and smart rationals.

Keith, one thing I enjoy about your posts is the unfailing demand for reason and honesty. I feel like you missed it in the paragraph I drew attention to. And to be pointed, I'm not talking about King or GLS and their posts. I'm talking about you.

I don't want to go on endlessly on this issue. I've made my point which I believe to be accurate. You can choose to accept my comment, attempt to refute it or begin to ignore it. I have no idea if I will respond to follow up posts so I can't say "I'm done" but I'd like to be.

On a matter related to the subject the OP brought up.

On the subject of King, I AM prepared to give him a pass based on his age.

It is doubtful he recently murdered anyone or stuck a shiv in them. He isn't evicting widows and orphans. And he' probably not blowing up kittens in a microwave.

At this point in his life, especially if you are correct Keith, he has remarkably little power left to do or affect anything. He gets on line with us and tells stories of his past that may not be accurate. He may exaggerate his impact on historical events and personalities. He has political views different than mine or yours. So what! My dad says goofy things at age 87 that I don't bother to point out any more. What's the point.

Not asking you to agree with me, just stating my position.

Someone brought it up, made it an issue, and it was brought up with deliberately scrambled spacing. But, it is funny to note that good and smarts might have left building for some.

Craig, if they have, I'd have to include my building in that neighborhood. LOL

I know I'm supposed to be more careful and I probably will be once I regain my stolen identity, but in the meantime I fatalistically tell myself "Anyone who really wants to know about any of us that use computers....can and will"

Ouch, cback. I could only hope I'd have half the energy King does when I'm a senile old coot. His policy don't get no pass, careful he's gonna ram it down your throat while he makes you think you're just greasing up his wheel chair.

James, I did indeed infer that GLS would not be saying the things he is saying about me directly to my face, despite the fact that he has ostensibly posted his true name. That is my observation and opinion. And it was me who reminded Jim that Gil gave his alleged full name and address the last time he attempted to demonize me and shame me away from illuminating King's lies. This was only after me prodding him about his own anonymity several times. The fact that he is dumb enough to put that information out here, and in the same thread, complain about running out of room in his gun safes to store his Remington 870 is his problem, and that of his family who could be victimized by thieves who troll the internet for such information. He's just a Keyboard Cowboy behind an LCD a thousand miles away from me, so we'll likely never know for sure. The only way to satisfy you would be for me to post my full name and address, or for me to visit Savannah, Ga. the next time I'm in the South to introduce myself to Gil. I have no plans to do either, but I am free to imagine him wetting his panties. So Gil is free to keep slinging his own mud, and you are free to give more credence to what Gil is saying. I welcome it because it keeps King's dishonesty front and center. You refer to me as his accuser when it is Gil who is doing virtually all of the baseless accusations here. I am only saying that he is attempting to vilify me for repeated illumination of King's lies backed up by examples of same. This is all right out of the Liberal Left playbook.

edit: James, giving King a pass on his lies and exaggerations gives him a credibility that permits him to continue to spread his damaging Liberal Left Socialist agenda, and give cover to the sleazy Liberal Left Democrat politicians who infringe upon our Second (and others) Amendment Rights. This was his craft as a Liberal journalist, and he can do it almost just as well in his eighties as he did in his thirties. His audience is smaller, yes, but he does have an audience. If I thought that you, me, Jim, Dave K., craigd, Ken61, and a few other Conservatives were the only ones viewing his bullshit, I wouldn't even bother. Neither would King.

I find King to be very intellectually stimulating. Even if our political views are diametrically opposed. I have to admit that I'd probably not monitor this board as much as I do if it weren't for him. I've only run into a few people with his extreme views, and I've always enjoyed the back-and-forth refutations and rebuttals. He's obviously very intelligent and committed. What King does, as far as for myself, is force me to "push myself" intellectually, something that your run-of-the-mill ignorant Leftist usually fails to do. This board would be considerably less interesting if King was not here.

LOL, Craig. Don't worry, I'll give you a pass then too. Although by that time I will probably have forgotten what a pass is. Haha.

BTW, a pass in these circumstances doesn't mean believing, just means not rising to the bait.

I agree. Frankly I like debate for exactly that reason. I don't always have time for it so don't respond to everything I read here but the value of misfires is substantially diminished for me if we are all agreeing all the time.

Ken and James, I agree, but would argue that it is much more intellectually stimulating to debate and argue with someone who is honest. None of you can ever win with King... even if we are 110% correct. In the very next thread, he will be back spouting the very same lies and bullshit that you successfully refuted yesterday. When you eventually tire of refuting the same lies, he wins. If you become adamant in illuminating and suppressing the repeated lies, some Libtard like GLS or Replacement will be along to attempt to vilify you, and make you the target. The "Big Lie" becomes the truth. A page in the Liberal Playbook becomes validated. I told GLS that's not going to happen with me, no matter how much mud he slings my way. I mean that.

Why any of you wish to give a pass to a liar, no matter what the reason, is beyond me. It doesn't take youth, vigor, or strength to operate a keyboard.

Nor does it take intelligence... GLS is proof of that.

I know you mean it, Keith. But I don't have quite the same take on it you do.

I think the few people who read these threads, who read what King posts, and read our response to his posts that posit something that is either factually wrong or can't be proven, get that. Most aren't stupid.

Most people are swayed, not by reason alone but reason combined with emotion. And accurate or not, IMHO, I don't believe you are winning any coverts to our viewpoint by vilifying King at every chance.

Note I said vilifying. One can challenge veracity and prove an earlier statement to be incorrect without getting personal. It may get tedious at times but likely no more tedious than your current approach.

It's not so much "giving him a pass". He'll never directly cede a point or admit that he's wrong. He nimbly pivots on the issue and then asserts either "Moral Equivalencey", or "Denial, Dismissal, and Demonization". When that happens you can be sure your point has struck home. It's kind of refreshing, as if that happened with your normal Leftist, he'd usually experience a massive cognitive dissonance reaction, lose control, and respond emotionally. Once someone breaks down and calls you an A$$hole, the debate is no longer fun.

Behind his anonymous curtain, he insults contrary opinions of those who dare
With a quiver full of childish insults he flings without a care
“I’ve called him a liar and dishonest to boot”,
“He ignores my taunts and doesn’t give a hoot”
When the curtain is lifted all see a bully filled with hot air

Ken, repeatedly calling someone a "liar" repeatedly for years is worse than calling someone an a$$hole. Talk about tanking a discussion. If one had to choose between the two, what is worse? Has King ever called anyone a liar or a$$hole? Gil

No, that's the point. He doesn't. That's one of the most basic rules of the "Art of Persuasion". Once you start name-calling, the ability to persuade ends. I hit King really hard about his ideology, yet never once has he broken down and called me names. I also have tried not to get personal, but I have no problem with trashing King's ideology, using all the Cold War examples and terms. King just "rolls with it". I admire that. Even if, given half the chance, he'd have me packed off for "Reeducation"...

Ken61, he did admit his middle name was "Lenin". Don't know if that is true or not, but it was priceless. He doesn't engage with keith. That drives keith nuts. Why should he? Who would? The few that have ended up in slime fests. Keith thinks his being ignored by King is somehow diabolical or dishonest. Gil

Perhaps we should consider James's point here and just accept King Brown as our befuddled octogenerian "Teller of Tales".

I well remember the 1st time I vacationed in Arizona with my family back in the 70s at a Dude ranch.
One of the old time wranglers told us the cattle would get so thirsty that when it rained even in the slightest they'd lay down, and roll over on their backs with their mouths open.
I can relate this to a liberals understanding and explanation of our economy and also the approach we should take when dealing with ISIS.
Obama has added a who new perspective to just "rolling over" and it will take some doing to recover from it. Nothing K Brown can obfuscate on can change this and fellow Democrats are running away from Obama as fast as they can.
There were other whoppers that were re-told by this wrangler but I've slept a few nights since then. He was very entertaining even though not much of what he related was true. I guess I better add that no cows were harmed during these sessions!
Jim

Yeah, the, "Lenin" admission. That's probably what cemented my view of King, which I detailed in my post shortly after that. He's unabashed about his views, but he's much too subtle to resort to typical Leftist rhetoric. He does a much better job than either Alan Colmes or Bob Beckel, two individuals who essentially attempt to present the same sort of viewpoint. If King was on MSNBC, I might actually WATCH it....

I laughed my ass off at that one!

If King and Keith were weapons, Keith would be the heavy Battleaxe, capable of bludgeoning an opponent as well as cutting him in half, while King is more like a Rapier, forcing an opponent to always be on their guard, as only a couple of inches in the right place could be a disaster.

Lenin???

Is this kinda like "My Momma named me Sparky cus my Daddie died in the electric chair!"

When King was born, times were different. It's easy for forget how strong the Communist Party was once. It really was people like McCarthy who destroyed it, forcing the Reds into the long-term project of infiltrating the Democrats. A project that is finally bearing fruit.

No, a compromise, Jim. Mom got the first name, Dad the second. If it was all Dad it would have been Nikolai Lenin! The Communist Party---then banned and operating as the Canadian Labour Defence League---provided a tiny sterling silver hammer and sickle necklace. My familiarity with intelligence affairs over the years---yours and ours---comes naturally.

Wrong again Gil. King does not ignore me. He only pretends to ignore me. I don't think it's diabolical, and it doesn't drive me nuts. I actually like it because it is further proof of his dishonesty. What is dishonest is the reasons he gave for pretending to ignore me. In the beginning, when it started, he claimed it was because I put words in his mouth. I had quoted him verbatim. There's another King Brown lie. Just last week, in the NYT WMD thread, your boy King put words in Jim's mouth and claimed he said something that Jim never said. Jim called him on it and King still has not either acknowledged it or apologized to Jim. What a stand-up guy, and yet another lie. Later he claimed that it was because I disrespected his father as a liar. Again, not at all true, another bold faced lie. I don't know a great deal about his father, but by all accounts, he was very admirable... a war hero, very well connected... not just in his imagination, and quite a guy. I never said a negative word about him. Too bad his traits, other than the alleged Communism thing, didn't rub off on you know who. More recently, his reason for pretending to ignore me is blamed on my behavior. Actually, I think my behavior is pretty good to people who don't lie to us or provide cover to Liberal Left Democrat Socialists who would take away our guns in a heartbeat. People like that are not our friends, and James is wrong... we will never win them over by being nice to them. Sorry James finds my approach tedious. He will have to deal with that. So will you Gil.

I wonder if King still has the sterling hammer and sickle necklace, or if he sold it to feed some poor black Africville family when he was a big time leader of the Canadian Civil Rights movement... but don't bother trying to verify that! Wait, I know. I'll bet King gave it to his good anti-gun pal Teddy who re-gifted it to Mary Jo, and it's at the bottom of a pond near Chappaquiddick... where the lion of the Senate left her to drown.

But remember, according to King, Mitt Romney is the nasty ol' misogynist. Right Gil?

Tell us who you are so we can publicly scour the internet for your past like you do for King. Or do you fear there is something out there you are ashamed of that will be uncovered?

He thinks calling a man “liar” makes him a scholar
“I am always right you’re dishonest” he will holler
Who dares disagree with him is a bald-faced liar
Stooped anonymous over his keyboard he does perspire
With the stench and class of a pig in a ”waller”

I'm sure you were proud of Ken likening you to a battleaxe. The problem with using a battleaxe all of the time is it can cause problems. Like opening a sardine can with an axe. You get the smell all over yourself.

Gil...You're reminding me of the white kid in Fox's joke that saved Obama from drowning.

Gil, practically, members can't ignore others if they want to. Miscreants are always with us, in the corner at school for bad behaviour, prattling spite and spit from foaming mouths on our streets, nudged always to the margins of our communities. No one likes meanness. We endure as victims. I can't complain. I've encountered only one during 25 years of participating in dozens of forums.

Comrade King,

There you go, claiming "victim" status just because someone is "mean" to you. Another doctrinal response. Just because Keith is very forceful and passionate about how he presents his views in no way detracts from their substance. Nice try at a "pivot" and a deflection from the issue...

Ken, If we had a nickel for everytime keith used the term "lie" or "liar" we could all buy a Best double or at least a downpayment for one. keith, too, is playing "victim". He whines and attacks out of both sides of his mouth. What you call passion and force some of us characterize it as pure and simple malevolence. The Big Lie knows no political boundaries.

Get with it, Ken. Meanness affects everyone. Forceful and passionate is one thing, obsessive, consistent and deliberate misinterpretation is another i.e the latest "Communist leaning," the old discredited McCarthy line. "We" in the collective sense meant all are victims of bad behaviour in our midst. Others may judge your approbation and encouragement of it.

Here's a thought, maybe you could steer Gi l towards issues? Hey G il, is ebola going to get eradicated like our 'strong' jobs numbers.

Craig, thanks for the reminder to get back on topic.

How much guts does it take to berate
While typing attacks at night when it’s late
"He won’t fight fair as he ignores my smear"
"It’s the discovery of who I am I publicly fear"
the yellow ilk of some blowhards who agitate.

That's the spirit Gi l. Thank you voting R next week.

Still waiting for Gil to disprove that the words I have reproduced from Kings posts as examples of his untruthfulness are not really lies.



This is great news! It appears King may be finally recognizing his own obsessive, consistent, and deliberate misrepresentations, and how mean they are to all of us. So when do you plan to quit King? Do they have a patch to help you quit, or maybe a support program, or are you going to try to quit cold turkey?

I would have no cause to call him a habitual liar if he wasn't a habitual liar. The only bad behavior here is from an idiot who wishes for us to excuse and ignore serial dishonesty.

Here's a little poem for Gil:

GLS wants us to ignore the lies of a liar.
The dumbass is too stupid to understand why some of us don't post our last name.
In typical Liberal hypocrite fashion, he only wants to protect the lies of another liberal.
This doesn't rhyme... and I don't give a shit.

Glad I'm still pissing you off Gil. Please tell me what I can do to make you cry a little more.

Here ya go Gil, in case you missed this from the NYT Admits Iraq Had WMD thread. You Know... that thread where King lied about what Jim said and never apologized. Such boorish behavior! Inexcusable... except to a Libtard apologist.

Does this rhyme?

Who is this man who charges prevarication
At another’s every word without hesitation
For he sees only his word as the one that is true
And others are dead wrong and false he shouts until blue
With diarrhea-like verbosity he gushes his defamation

Looks like ed good is back and posting under the handle GLS. Same intelligence level and nothing to back up what he says. Same dishonest attempts to protect an anti-2nd Amendment lying LULLER. All we need is some pics of torch colored fly rods with an oak leaf in the backround. Plenty of circumstantial evidence. Welcome back ed.

No one knows his real name, he hides behind his curtain
He says others lie, non-stop he’s a spurtin’
He calls a man a liar even if it doesn’t fit
He prattles on his slander and just won’t quit
That he hides behind his screen name like a chicken is certain

If Dorothy and Toto were to saddle up and look for the Wizard of Ooze would they find you behind the curtain at the end of the Yellow Prick Road?

Still waiting for this Liberal apologist to show proof of this line from his little poem. Why don't we start with the King Brown Lie I mentioned above where he claimed that Jim had said that the NYT article on WMD found in Iraq actually referred to the chemical weapons that were found as WMD? Then maybe he could touch on the wild assed dancing all around the truth where our pathological prevaricator made the lamest of arguments that mustard gas, sarin, etc., are not really WMD.

So happy that you are keeping the subject of your Liberal pal's dishonesty front and center. Usually he's able to dance away from it for a couple days.

Keith:
You can wait till the cows come home here for a direct answer to anything we post on this forum as facts. Libtards can post all the B.S. they want in venues where it's either difficult or impossible to respond like the lies and exaggerations cranked out daily in the "mainstream news media". I don't listen to talk radio but I do tune into FOX each evening and O'Reilly, Kelly, Hannity etc are about the only ones who can directly debunk this B.S. before a large intelligent audience.
Here all the Libtards can do is ignore it when they are exposed or try to debase the exposer as GLS is doing above.
I don't know what it takes to get into that sort of sick/warped mindset and I hope I never find out.
Jim

Preposterous post. Comrade King, your ideology specializes in "Meanness". Sociopathic demonization is the hallmark of the Left. Lest you forget, the statist doctrinal lexicon which includes "Racist, Sexist, Bigot, Homophobe" as well as the newer "Murderer, Women-Hater, Bush-lied-people-died, Pretorius-bashing, Trailerpark-trolling, Tax-evading, etc" is the way the Left operates. ALL ARGUABLE LIES, and a part of the "Politics of Personal Destruction". Personally, I find mockingly illustrating hypocrisy to be more effective and entertaining, but that's my preference...

What is that? It might be a type of "Haiku"...

Truer words have never been spoken. Although the ones of the past six years have destroyed countless American lives.

Deliberate misinterpretation... really King? Do you remember this little exchange between Ken61 and yourself?



And your reply...



So what's the problem? Could it be that "Communist leaning" wasn't perfectly accurate because it didn't go quite far enough? Not everyone is as dense and dull witted as your defender, the initiator of this thread.

Look at the obvious intelligence level of the few people you have buffaloed here. Aren't you ashamed? I thought you took pity on the weak and disadvantaged.

It is said it is best not to wrestle with a pig,
Because rolling in the mud is his dance, a jig
So it drives him crazy when his insults are ignored
A garbage can full of rotten insults that pile up unscored
Anonymously calling folks liars is his cowardly gig.

Anonymous keith, As indicated in another thread, I can have your favorite limerick in this thread needle pointed for you, suitable for framing. Just post your name and address in this thread and I'll get back with you on costs. Christmas is approaching. I'll send $10 to Dave. Have you tried the Imodium?

Or if you prefer, I can have all of them printed up in a bound book, gold edged, of course, and get them to you in time for Xmas.
With apologies to Walt Whitman, I'll call it "Leaves of A Cowardly Ass." (Poetic license) Certainly couldn't call it "Profiles in Courage". That title has been used and would be misleading.

Be sure to give us you name and address!!!


Gil

Ken, a "Haiku" is a form of Japanese poetry.
First and last line have five syllables and the middle line is 7 Syllables. Rhyming not necessary. This is a Haiku:

The Wizard of Ooze

Keith is a coward
Yellow bellied he spews crap
On Yellow Prick Road.

This would be another:

A mind sick young boy
Picked wings off of caught flies
He now slanders King

and another:

jOe writes smallish pops
short, cryptic and bone cutting
keith is verbous bully


Gil

I think a lot will agree with me that you have let this effect you mentally.

roses are red. violets are blue...

character flawed cowards are all over...

certainly here too...

jOe, I sense you don't know how to take a compliment in the Haiku.
Funny I should mention Profiles in Courage. Did you ever get squared away with Chris Dunlap (Pre13Col??) after you posted his offer to meet you and discuss your tormenting of Adam Stinson, the 21 year-old frequent poster? I believe you then faxed the Private Message to his employer. You stopped tormenting Adam after that. In the photos posted in other threads with him in full battle gear under the Crossed Sabres in Bagdhad, he did look a little intimidating. jOe, we understand. Memory is a funny thing. So are glass houses.
Gil

Like this one?

Internet Weiners
Contests are so funny
Always get stepped on

You have five syllables in line 1, that is correct. Was weiners a Freudian slip or did you mean "whiners"?
Line 2 has six syllables, not 7.
Line 3 has six syllables, not 5.
See if you can work in "statist" which appears in practically all of your posts.

Like this:

King is a statist
Says Ken61 all the time
A johnny one note

How about this?

Internet Weiners
Contests can be so funny
Always stepped on

"Weiner" is a reference to "Internet Weiner Measuring Contest", (yes, "Weiner" is slang for "Penis") a term used often by the younger generations to describe a pointless conflict on the internet. Not to say that it isn't entertaining to others.

It's easy to use "Statist" whenever talking about politics.

Statists are so Red
Constitution is denied
Slavery is here

This is becoming very entertaining.

GLS is duped
Head is in the sand far deep
Easy to not think

Your first Haiki about statist is correct
Your second one has too many syllables in the first line. It doesn't take any thought to spot an insufferable jerk like keith. At least you aren't abusive like your buddy, keith. For that we are grateful.
Gil

Meh, as we all get older, it's easy to drift into an insulting tone with responses. I think we all sometimes find it emotionally gratifying to really "lay into someone" and insult them. I've been guilty of that, but I try to guard against it. I find that when I do that, it really turns me negative, and consequentially upset and unhappy. It's much more uplifting emotionally to "poke fun" at people, especially those you don't agree with. I appreciate the humor in your posts.

I'm trying not to become more "Crotchety" as I get older..

I really didn't expect King to take me up on the offer of my books. I was "poking fun" at him. Especially with McCarthy's book. That would have been like a Christian Fundamentalist accepting an offer of a loan of the "Satanic Bible"...

Ken

I find it emotionally uplifting to flush Libtards like GLS. I love it when they put their own dishonesty and hypocrisy on full display. It's always very revealing when they cannot intelligently and truthfully counter what I have said, and it's noteworthy that they only rise to the bait in defense of their own kind.



What's wrong Gil? You've got nothing to counter this, so you resort back to your slime and slander. How many chances have you had now to intelligently support your contention that King is not a liar? Ah, but that would take intelligence, something you severely lack, in my opinion. It's so easy for King to fool someone like you. I back up what I say, and so far, you have nothing to counter it except your personal disapproval, and your defense of a liar.




Ken61, for the second line, would "Head up King's and Obama's ass" have the proper number of syllables?

As they say GLS, ttt... to the top! I'm thrilled that you are keeping your pal King's dishonesty front and center. I was afraid your thread might be running out of gas.

COWARD ALERT COWARD ALERT COWARD ALERT COWARD ALERT COWARD

keith the kowardly klown

Why does he act the jerk this anonymous wizard of ooze?
Does he stay up late at night drowning in booze?
Why is he so vicious, toxic and absent of mirth?
Was he dropped on his head, an accident at birth?
Or does he visit this forum in too tight clown shoes?

I don't comment on King's politics or your politics. Y'all are free to believe what you want. What I do comment on is your conduct. Were you bullied as a kid? Picked on by an older brother or sister? Or did you pick on other kids? Or pick on your younger brother or sister? Did an 84 year-old Nova Scotian run over your dog? We need to know! You never got over the story about Santa Claus not being true? You can be helped.

The needlepointers are getting antsy and the publisher is calling daily. Which limerick do you want and how many copies of "Leaves of a Cowardly Ass" do you need? Please give your name and address. (Couldn't get the banner colored yellow. How'd you do the Liar Alert Red? Just between us boys. Let's do lunch) Gil

DUMBASS ALERT>>>>>>>>>>>>DUMBASS ALERT>>>>>>>>>>>>DUMBASS ALERT>>>>>>>>>>>>

Still got nothing, eh GLS?

You continue to inspire, you the poetic gift that keeps on giving. Inquiring minds need to know:

Why does the wizard’s nasty streak of ooze seem permanent?
Does he have a pointy head filled with quick-set cement?
Did an 84 year-old King look alike run over his childhood dog?
With these and other questions we continue to ponder and slog
Or is it just pure and simple his head is packed with excrement?

With the additional list of limericks the book publisher will need more $$ for "Leaves of A Cowardly Ass". $10 to Dave


Still need your name and address posted!

DUMBASS ALERT>>>>>>>>>>>>DUMBASS ALERT>>>>>>>>>>>>DUMBASS ALERT>>>>>>>>>>>>

Still got nothing, eh GLS?

Read my post #382341 above again GLS. Your buddy is a liar. You are here to defend a liar. I guess that's what lawyers do. I think good ones do it with a convincing argument rather than a display of their stupidity.

Keith, I am here to let it be known that you are a spineless bully who for years has seemed to take some sort of weird pleasure out of mugging an 84 year-old man. Read each and every limerick. It just seems nicer in short concise language. We know what you are, just not who you are. Gil

DUMBASS ALERT>>>>>>>>>>>>DUMBASS ALERT>>>>>>>>>>>>DUMBASS ALERT>>>>>>>>>>>>

Still got nothing, eh GLS?

Read my post #382341 above again GLS. Your buddy is a liar. You are here to defend a liar. I guess that's what lawyers do. I think good ones do it with a convincing argument rather than a display of their stupidity.

keith, I read your post. I don't see a lie. When you were born did you pick out your middle name (let's use Acoward) since we don't know it. Are the "sins" of the father visited on the son? Did you pick and choose who your parents were? Tell us something warm and fuzzy about you. You seem to relish mining the internet about King as you did in the other thread. Yesterday, you got your ass caught in a mischaracterization of a King statement. A stupid mistake, had it been reversed, you would have made it proof of a lie and repeated it ad nauseum for years, on two screens of print. It's just what you do, you overblown windbag.

Oh, thank's for the Dumbass Alert.

With a battleship mouth and a rowboat ass
He calls folks liars with his lack of class
Hidden in the bushes he barks out “lies”
While as a kid he pulled wings off flies
He thinks he’s clever but he’s just a ________

I'm stumped. Can’t say “horse’s ass” because of the first line, “pompous, long-winded jerk” doesn’t rhyme, but thanks to your suggestion, I’ll use “dumbass”. Dumbass is kinda juvenile, but it was your suggestion. We make a great team. You give me so much to work with.

Geez, you're even dumber than I thought. Am I not entitled to my opinions that King tells lies and that you are a dumbass? My opinions are based upon observations.

King said my "Communist leaning" statement was deliberate misinterpretation, so I provided quotes from an exchange between him and Ken61 where Ken 61 asked why he was so Red. King replied that he'd be the "first to be rounded up" and went on to speak of his indoctrination and his opinion that "anyone who wasn't thinking that way at the time he was born wasn't thinking." But King has mentioned his Communist leanings and tendencies here several other times in the past... as if they weren't patently obvious already. Guess you weren't paying attention. I did. This had nothing to do with his middle name.

I suppose both you and King could weasel out of this by claiming that you both thought the "Red" which Ken61 referred to was referring to King's alleged Miqmak Indian ancestry.

I didn't get my ass caught in a mischaracterization of a King Brown statement yesterday. I got caught in another attempted move by King to weasel out of what he clearly said, and that shit only works on fools and those who are trying to cover up a fellow Libtard's lies. I also addressed that "craft of journalsim" lying and weaseling within the NYT-WMD thread. I'd say "Nice Try" if it wasn't so blatantly dishonest and an amateurish attempt to cover up one lie with another.

You're a big bad Keyboard Cowboy Gil. But you've got nothing to back it up. Nothing. Why are you like that? Did someone call you a pussy in school? Do people still call you a pussy? If not, why not? The longer you go on, the more you display your stupidity and hypocrisy. I could just see you in action.

"Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, my client is a pedophile, but he is 84 years old so you must acquit, and you must never speak critically of him."

"Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, my client is a murderer, but he is 84 years old so you must acquit, and you must never speak critically of him."

"Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, my client is a con artist who has been swindling 94 year old ladies, but he is 84 years old so you must acquit, and you must never speak critically of him."

Since you obviously have reading comprehension problems Gil, why don't we go back and start with the easy King Brown lie where he said that Jim had claimed the NYT used the term WMD in their article on the chemical weapons found in Iraq. You know... the one where our resident liar tried to say that Mustard Gas, Sarin, and poison gasses that were banned by the Geneva Convention are not really WMD. Our liar still hasn't addressed that Whopper, nor has he manned-up and apologized to Jim. Doesn't that tell you something? I suppose it doesn't. That would take a level of both intelligence and integrity.

Besides, when I opine that King Brown is a pathological liar, how do you know I'm talking about the King Brown who so frequently posts bullshit here? Why are you engaging in deliberate mis-characterizations? See, two can play the same dishonest game.

I recall a couple of years ago, King mentioned he was a friend of MLK and attended his Nobel Peace Award in Sweden. You mined the internet and found no photo of King in Oslo. You interpreted this to be either a lie or exaggeration. A CBC youtube video was found of King interviewing MLK and you wrote that MLK never looked at him indicating that he couldn’t be a friend. King said he knew Jackie Kennedy. You once again mined the internet and found no photo. You interpreted that to be either a lie or exaggeration. You have repeatedly stalked him in this forum and on the internet. King is 84 years old with what appears to have been one helluva run and continues to be active in his community and for what we know in both good mental and physical health. He hunts and fishes. I give him credit for “walking the walk”. I would punch my life ticket right now to be guaranteed to have the run he has had so far. You on the other hand “sqwauk and sqwauk”I wouldn’t stand by and watch a thug mug an 84 year-old man on the street, I’m not going to stand by and watch you shamelessly, repeatedly and cowardly mug him on this forum. I don’t pick my friends for their political beliefs. I sure didn’t pick my wife for her gun rights beliefs. I would share a drink or a foxhole with King. Based on what I know about you and your forum persona—not so fast.…. King may play the “punk’s game”, but he is no “punk”. You on the other hand play the “coward’s game” and act like both a “punk” and a “coward”.

Keith, the cowardly klown:

He said he dined with Jackie O. did King Brown
I’ve mined the internet, no photo to be found
My internet search confirmed through spying
That with no 50 year-old photo, he’s got to be lying
Hissed keith our doublegun kowardly klown.

Still holding that $10 for Dave!
Your name and address posted, please.

I see you deleted the above post from the NYT-WMD thread, and moved it here. I'll paste my reply to you here...

Why do you wish to change the subject and move on to many of the wild-assed things that King says here which are unverifiable?
How many times has your boy doubted something and demanded "Proof please"? ... the same proof that he virtually never gives... save the odd Wikipedia reference? You are free to characterize my actions as stalking or mugging. You would be wrong. You don't have any clue what walk I've walked, because I have not squawked about it as King has. If King told you he walked on the moon and had a Congressional Medal of Honor, would you believe it just because he said so? Would you expect me to believe it as well? If I checked out the claims and found nothing, would I be justified in questioning them? Had I found anything of substance initially, my curiosity would have quickly been satisfied. What I do know is that when I did searches of some of King's contemporaries who were of much lesser journalistic stature... at least according to him... there were many more search results. If that doesn't suggest something to you, you may be even dumber than I think.

Here's a little story I once told here that you may have missed. I'll try to keep it short. I used to work with an older guy who frequently went on and on about his WWII service record. He claimed to have been Gen. Douglas McArthurs personal radioman. He claimed he was just outside the frame of the photo of the Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima. He spoke of hand to hand combat with the Japs. He claimed he knew the Japs surrendered even before McArthur did, because he took the radio message. He claimed to have opened the first whorehouse in Tokyo after the war. Some of the other guys used to question him and mock him. They asked him if he ran the first customers of his whorehouse off by hand since he didn't have any girls. They questioned his wild claims and he got pissed and even more adamant about his heroic record. I myself never commented. He was older and I respected that.

Some years later, I asked my Dad how much older this guy was than him, since I knew they grew up a literal stone's throw apart. My Dad told me they were only a couple months apart and would have graduated together if my old co-worker had not flunked fourth grade. I said, "Then he couldn't have possibly fought in WWII?" and Dad said, "Hell no, we were about 13 years old when WWII ended. He did join the Army when I went into the Air Force, but I'm pretty sure he never left the States. He was a radio repairman, not a radioman. Why? What'd he tell you?"

I told my Dad about some of the daring heroics he'd related. To tell him all of what he had claimed would have taken literally days. I guess it was all the more heroic considering he was fighting Japs at age 12 or 13. Dad rolled his eyes and told me he always was different while they were growing up. He said that when all of the other kids were hunting, fishing, playing football, or baseball, etc., my ex co-worker would usually be off by himself dreaming up wild assed stories.

Then there was an ex-boss of mine who swore he got picked up by a gust of wind while carrying a 4' x 8' sheet of plywood on the roof of a seven story apartment building in Pittsburgh. He told us he carefully steered it to a perfect landing between a city bus and a police car on Liberty Ave. in rush hour traffic. Amazing!

Then there's a guy where I currently work who claims to have sat atop a 220 cu. ft. oxygen tank and snapped the neck off with a sledge hammer and rode the tank across the Ohio River to Kentucky. Same guy claims that he saved his town from certain destruction by driving his Chevy truck into the path of an approaching tornado and breaking up the funnel cloud. Wow!

The last two guys, I confronted. I threw the Bullshit Flag. They both got very pissed at me. Tough shit.

I'm telling you the same thing. Tough Shit. You can believe all the bullshit you want to swallow. I won't.

I'll be short and to the point. A trait lacking in you:

What is it that makes this anonymous keith tick?
What drives him to obsessively say “liar”, is he just sick?
If an old woman said “good morning”, but it was past noon
Would he accuse her of lying, like an obnoxious buffoon?
Or is it as simple as he’s just a two-bit prick?

match point?

And, hopefully, game over as well!!

Sadly GLS has stooped to the low he accuses Keith of being.

A jOe'ya brain has been scrambled....

jOe, I've never contacted a man's employer to cause trouble because I was concerned he was going to beat my ass. Did you get Chris Dunlap fired when you faxed his PM to his employer? You put all of this in misfires. BTW, can you make a chicken cluck on your yelpers or do you do it with your voice, naturally?

GLS, the last time you pulled this crap, you started with the suggestion that people who give their opinions (apparently only those chosen opinions that you personally don't agree with), based upon evidence, should be financially damaged through the expense of defending frivolous lawsuits.

Have you ever done that to anyone, and if so, did they repay "favors and fxxxings in kind" as you say you like to do?

For some damn reason, I have a hard time ignoring hypocrisy.

Since were talking about faxts.

I don't own a fax machine or know how to fax and that's a faxt.

Another faxt iz I've never feared any man beating my azz...

It's amazing that you are now attacking me because I showed you and this entire board how stupid you have looked with this entire thread...and that's another faxt.

You must be a Georgia transplanted liberal yankee.....because a true Southerner could never show his arse like you have in this thread...and that's a faxt.

Corrected. You emailed it to his employer. Well, jOe, you did contact his employee and stated so on this forum. I was surprised. Do you deny doing this? jOe, when you start a rock fight, don't be surprised when one gets thrown back. Gil

With the aroma and stink of a Vermont 50 cow dairy
He spins King’s words into lies at night, sipping sherry
If keith were a Disney ride he’d be a hot foul air balloon
If he were a zoo animal he’d be a dung-tossing baboon
On this forum he’s Stinkerbelle, the half-truth fairy.

And I think your brain is on a Merry Go Round to hell....

Guess I hit the nail on the head....

Nope. You've demonstrated over the years that a Southerner can show his arse and that's why you were banned from posting on the for sale forum and took a little vacation from us. Glass house? Gil

I was banned from the sale section because of the whining of a couple of liberal gun dealer bastards that didn't like being called out for violating the rules....

I took a vacation because I really don't give a hoot about talking about SxS's anymore.

Let me ask you a question...internet stalker bOy.

What do you expect to gain from showing the world what a psychopathic idiOt you are with this thread ?

Go back and read the crap you've typed in this thread and convince a psychiatrist you're brain is not fried.

You couldn't do it....faXt is under the right circumstances I believe you'd be committed.

joe: you only been banned from the for sale section?

dats hit?

why hell, i been up de river on dis forum twist now...

wana see my tatoos?

In this thread I have violated a major rule. Arguing with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. I am out of this thread. Bye-Bye, Frank, keith, whoever you are.

GLS is mad
Started a thread that went South
Bow out is easy

Bowing out from speaking to principle is not easy, Ken, but there are limits to time available for trying to make the world safer from fools.

Amazingly accurate statement, with direct application to how anti-communists think about statist, religious, sociopaths like you. You're the proverbial "Broken Clock", you're dead-on this time..

Huh, I thought when folks start typing like that, you put them on your ignore list.

Ken, a broken clock is accurate twice a day, more than some here.

Comrade King,

In your case, I was being very generous..

King's prattle is Red
Distortion dances are fun
He needs a Tu-tu

Gil, smart move!...Geo

No one dragged you down to anything...this thread shows you were already there.

Dave has suspended you three times. The truth is just not in you, is it?

Too bad it wasn't life without parole.

How about trying to make the world safer from anti-Gun anti Second Amendment liars, bloviators, and Liberal Left Socialist obfuscators, huh King?

You post numerous and recent examples of their lies and bullshit, give your opinion of their honesty and veracity, and you get some douche-bag coming out of the woodwork to defend them... not with an honest and accurate refutation, but with gay little poems and juvenile insults.

These pathological prevaricators, and their hypocritical defenders, are a disservice to all members, and I don't know why Dave W. puts up with them.

no guts, no glory...

"All glory is fleeting"

Someone please save us from ultra conservative and ultra liberal wackos.

Jager,

Please start a new thread the defines what these two terms mean to you. Then, we can have a debate. I think it would be an interesting thread..

I just bought a new F-150. And if you think consumerism hasn't got us by the throat, try to buy a truck---a work vehicle, not a tarted-up status symbol---with an eight-foot box and four-wheel drive.

You just didn't shop enough. Ford still makes work trucks in the Super Duty line equipped like you want. Gas engine, almost no chrome, utilitarian interior.

Your inner child just wanted the chrome and gizmos, King.

SRH

Or he could do like I did and keep the old one. Mine is a 1972 4x4 with 336000 miles on the clock. Still runs like a champ and I don't have to take the damn thing to a dealer for repair.

JRB and Stan, good to hear. Never owned a Ford and bought it primarily because the salesman of Guts and Glory said "This isn't what you want. Buy a F-150. Better horsepower and fuel economy." With that kind of endorsement, I bought the Plain Jane version. Took a couple weeks to get it. My neighbour waited longer because the closest one for him was in British Columbia. A truck is a tool and workers look all over the country to get one! My 2002 Silverado's frame rusted-out.

I had one up until about two years ago. By the time I got rid of it, it had 265,000 miles. It was well made, with the only downside being the MPG..

It's nice to reminisce...