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Posted By: gasgunner Remington 24 - 01/22/18 11:26 PM
Anybody else notice this sorry looking bunch?
Auction

If you are looking for a Iver Johnson Single shot 12 ga, a slightly used Davemport Arms falling block, a worn out Crackshot, or a Model 24 that just needs a little cleaning up I might be able help you out. grin

More to follow.

John
Posted By: Der Ami Re: Remington 24 - 01/22/18 11:50 PM
Looks like some one is selling "Grand Daddy's" guns.
Posted By: eightbore Re: Remington 24 - 01/22/18 11:58 PM
Yup, I noticed that sorry looking bunch. Good luck. I didn't notice that the sale had already ended. Tell us about the Model 24. Wow.
Posted By: PhysDoc Re: Remington 24 - 01/23/18 01:17 AM
Good to see you posting again, I hope you will share with us some pictures of that G&H marked Remington.
Posted By: SDH-MT Re: Remington 24 - 01/23/18 03:20 PM
Did they ship them bundled?
Magnifying several times it looks like you may have something pretty special?!?
Congrats~~
Posted By: Thaine Re: Remington 24 - 01/23/18 08:11 PM
Good catch, the G&H looks like it should be an easy repair on the the toe and should clean up nicely. Teaches me to pay more attention to Rock Island's bundles. It is actually one of the things that turns me off on their auctions. Looking forward to seeing the final version once you get it done.
Posted By: gasgunner Re: Remington 24 - 01/23/18 08:30 PM
Originally Posted By: PhysDoc
Good to see you posting again, I hope you will share with us some pictures of that G&H marked Remington.



I'm still recovering from the whole photobucket fiasco. As soon as I get another solution for posting pictures I'll do so.

Been pretty busy here at the shop lately as well. The whole industry has been going through a change the last year and a half or so, and we have been busy with trying to adapt and get new products online.

I've got the little G&H cleaned up a little and it actually worked out pretty good. The 2 big chips in the stock are repaired. The uneven gap between the stock and receiver was due to a bent magazine tube which has been taken care of. I lightly rubbed the stock with rotten stone and oil to even it out and remove some of the grime and mildew that had taken up residence on it.

A couple interesting things about the rifle. The barrel is relatively heavy and 26" long. This seemed to me a little odd for what was originally meant to be a small lightweight rifle. Why would someone put a man sized stock and heavy barrel on a little light weight takedown. (although the takedown feature was omitted when it was rebarreled.

Secondly, when I was bending the magazine tube, I noticed that the stock also had some cast-on. I assumed that the magazine tube must have also been bent to the left, but when I straightened it out, the head of the stock no longer mated up with the back of the receiver, but rather contacted on the right side and had a small gap on the left. So I bent the tube back so that the stock and receiver headed up correctly and now we are back to about 1/4" of cast on for a right hand shooter, or cast-off for a lefty. My theory is that whoever commissioned it was a lefty and wanted a good quality repeating .22 that did not throw the brass in front of his face. Probably not to many choices for a lefty in 1932. The bottom eject of the little 24 does not discriminate.

It is also stocked very straight. I have a thin face but still have a hard time getting my head down to where I can look through the rear sight, yet there are no signs of the rifle ever having a scope.

More to come.

John

Oh, another thing. Does anyone know if the safety is reversible on these rifles? It has a button in the front of the trigger guard, but when pushed to the left with your trigger finger it puts it on safe. Opposite of what you would expect, and possibly more evidence of it being for a lefty?
Posted By: gasgunner Re: Remington 24 - 01/23/18 09:04 PM
Originally Posted By: SDH-MT
Did they ship them bundled?
Magnifying several times it looks like you may have something pretty special?!?
Congrats~~


I am about 2 hours from Rock Island so I just drove up and picked them up. I have mixed feelings about buying guns at auction, but I have to say they have a very impressive operation. They move a bunch of guns through that place and do it is a friendly efficient manner. But it is very much buyer beware.

John
Posted By: Kutter Re: Remington 24 - 01/23/18 10:50 PM
"...Does anyone know if the safety is reversible on these rifles? It has a button in the front of the trigger guard, but when pushed to the left with your trigger finger it puts it on safe. Opposite of what you would expect, and possibly more evidence of it being for a lefty?..."


A factory literature/operating instruction brochure dated(?) 1-35 in the lower left corner of the front page for the M24 & pictured page 254/255 'Browning 22cal Rifles by Tyler.

To Set The Safety
.........
'For left-handed shooters a safety can be furnished which works just the opposite of the standard safety.'


There's no specific LH Safety part listed in that 1935 brochure parts list. Just a 'Safety', part#85,,...20cents.
I take it that is the standard RH safety part. A LH version might be spec order/maybe need to send the rifle in for fitting.

That's the only reference I can find about a Left Hand safety being available from Remington for the Mod24.

None of the earlier pictured literature/brochures in that book mention a LH safety at all or spec order availability.

They only state that the safety on the Model24 is RH in operation, using operational wording as: push flat with the guard or all the way to the Right from the LH side to put the gun SAFE,ect.

1935 is IIRC the last year of production for the Mod24,,a very few were assembled from parts in the 3 or 4 years afterwards. But very few,,like maybe 5 or 6.

Nothing in there about the Mod 241 having a LH safety available for it. None of the shown literture mentions one. All state a RH safety in opertion instructions.

Hope this helps..
Posted By: gasgunner Re: Remington 24 - 01/23/18 11:12 PM
Thank you for the information, that is very interesting. I'm just glad I tested it with a empty chamber before loading it.

John

I just checked the other rem 24 in this lot of rifles. The safety on it works in the normal push left to fire manner. So I guess we can assume that the G&H rifle was stocked with cast off for a left handed shooter.
Posted By: eightbore Re: Remington 24 - 01/25/18 11:33 PM
Gasgunner, I PMed you about the Model 24.
Posted By: gasgunner Re: Remington 24 - 04/19/18 02:10 PM
Thanks to the sharp eye of a fellow forum member, I believe we know with a fair level of certainty who the owner of this little rifle was. The stock has the initials EMQ engraved on the brass shield. Edgar Monsanto Queeny was a business leader, conservationist and author.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Monsanto_Queeny

At the December 17 premier auction Rock Island also sold 2 Winchester model 21 shotguns that were custom made for Mr. Queeny.

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail...inchester-model

As you recall this little 24 had a reversed safety and cast on built into the stock leading me to believe it was built for a left handed shooter. If you look at the factory letter for the 12 gauge 21, it was ordered with 7/16 of cast on leading me to believe Mr. Queeny was a left handed shooter. The 20 gauge that was built for his wife was ordered with only 1/16" of cast on.

Thanks again to IRS for digging into this and forwarding me the information.

Regards,
John
Posted By: eightbore Re: Remington 24 - 04/20/18 02:58 PM
John, remember to keep me on the list for the Model 24.
Posted By: irs Re: Remington 24 - 05/30/18 06:01 PM
Originally Posted By: gasgunner
Thanks to the sharp eye of a fellow forum member, I believe we know with a fair level of certainty who the owner of this little rifle was. The stock has the initials EMQ engraved on the brass shield. Edgar Monsanto Queeny was a business leader, conservationist and author.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Monsanto_Queeny

At the December 17 premier auction Rock Island also sold 2 Winchester model 21 shotguns that were custom made for Mr. Queeny.

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail...inchester-model

As you recall this little 24 had a reversed safety and cast on built into the stock leading me to believe it was built for a left handed shooter. If you look at the factory letter for the 12 gauge 21, it was ordered with 7/16 of cast on leading me to believe Mr. Queeny was a left handed shooter. The 20 gauge that was built for his wife was ordered with only 1/16" of cast on.

Thanks again to IRS for digging into this and forwarding me the information.

Regards,
John


I think I was the runner up in the bidding. I would love to see some pictures of how she cleaned up!
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