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Posted By: Don Moody New L.C.Smith Book - 10/14/06 02:21 AM
There is a new L.C.Smith coming out. L.C. SMITH - "THE LEGEND LIVES" by John Houchins.

It is announced on page 64 of the new DGJ.
Posted By: Drew Hause Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/14/06 02:36 AM
Here's the order infro:
http://www.lcsmith.org/images/books/LC_Smith_noPMS[2].pdf
Posted By: jyuma Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/14/06 07:53 PM
Thanks for the L.C. Smith link for the book. JYuma
Posted By: Chuck H Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/15/06 02:17 PM
I just gave my payment yesterday for this book.
Posted By: Drew Hause Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/15/06 08:29 PM
Just submitted my order by e-mail and asked for confirmation as to delivery. This is what I received back:

"Thank you for your interest in the New
L. C. Smith book.
Your email has been received and will be chronologically recorded. We are accepting orders at this time."

Looks like shades of RBL/CSMC :rolleyes:
Posted By: Chris Baumohl Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/16/06 02:09 AM
Well, I am sure that John appreciates your order very much but the last comment was sure helpful....

See my rant on the "other board".

Have a great evening!!

Chris
Posted By: Don Moody Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/16/06 02:46 AM
Chris, I agree with your post(rant) on the SSBB.

Will be ordering my copy tomorrow.
Posted By: topgun Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/16/06 04:00 AM
Don't know anything about Brother Chris's rant; but I do know he can sometimes get on a roll! As a little FYI regarding John Houchins book, I communicated with John a number of times over the past 3-4 years that this book has been in development. Like everything thing else in this world, it will not be prefect; but John did his absolute best to make the book as complete and informative as possible. One item that should be of interest to Smith collectors is that John and another LCSCA member arranged to conduct another study of the surviving Smith shipping records archieved at Cody. This was an expensive undertaking; but from that effort it was learned that (1) the shipping records are indeed all that remain of the original Smith production records; and (2) that Mr. Brophy's original grade recap was quite accurate, as few adjustments were made to his original totals. That said, the new recap will be more complete providing additional details on lower grade Smith guns; and there will also be a few surprises, which I will not divulge. Regarding the book itself, it is extensive and will build on Brophy's original work to include all that has been learned since Brophy's book was originally published. Additionally, it will have tons of great color photos, most of which were taken by photographer Terry Allen whose work is regularly featured in the DGJ, Shooting Sportsman, and other sporting magazines. Regarding the cost of this book, given printing and photography costs, the limited printing run; and the size of the book, it was an expensive item to produce. An interesting story regarding the printing of this book is that John learned he could significantly lower final retail price if he agreed to allow actual printing work to be done in China. John, being a Texan and a true patriot, couldn't bring himself to have his work on an American Classic gun printed in China; and was finally able to locate a printer in NC that could keep the per book price at something less than exhorbitant. I believe I am correct in stating that printing is underway as I write; and John plans to have copies available and being marketed prior to Christmas. It should be a great read; and, as is evident from the cover in the promo, will contain photos of some really interesting Smith guns.
Posted By: hampton Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/16/06 10:53 AM
I met both John and his son Walker at the Southern Sidex Side and was impressed with there comments on the book,I sold them a single barrel Ideal grade trap gun that found a new good home.
Having it printed in the US might make it a collectors item.
Hampton
Posted By: Dig Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/16/06 12:19 PM
Jut come into contact with a cased LC Smith boxlock No. FWS9723

28" barrels semi-pistol grip stockcolur hardened lockplate, Deeley type forend latch.

Condition not bad, but not first class.

What kind of value do these things have? If it is cheap, I may well get it - I can always make a gift of it to an appreciative US visitor if I don't like it.
Posted By: Walter C. Snyder Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/16/06 12:43 PM
I understand all to well the economics of producing a book of this nature. IT IS EXPENSIVE! I am so glad John chose to print it in the USA and especially in North Carolina. How special is that. Congratulations to John and I wish him much success with your "baby." I will ,order mine within the next few days. Smiths and Ithacas are first cousins you all realize. (Please no Ithaca bashing on this post.)
Posted By: David Williamson Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/16/06 01:34 PM
Dig, you threw me off a little when you said boxlock and listed the serial numbers on your newly acquired L.C. Smith. It is a sidelock and your gun was made in 1947. Marlin took them over in 1945 and didn't start producing the "S" series until 1946.
About the Deeley forend latch, I don't think that is original on this year gun. Of couse it could have been special ordered. David
Posted By: Dig Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/16/06 02:28 PM
JDW

Many thanks

I have not yet seen the gun, I posted as it has been described. I'll see it on Wednesday.

To an L C Smith buff, would this be an interesting gun?

Or are the later ones like the Greener Empire - sad reflections of past glories?
Posted By: David Williamson Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/16/06 07:06 PM
Dig, The rebirth of the L.C. Smith from Marlin 1967-1971, listed only 1 grade a Field Grade and later a Deluxe Grade. Both had ventilated aluminum ribs by Poly Choke. The bridges were closely spaced as to lessen the chance of dents in the rib. 28 " barrels mod/full, double triggers. Stated they will be copies of the originals. Later plans are to make 26" barrels imp.cyl/mod. all in 12 ga. only. Plus I think they both had beavertail forends.
Both were well built guns, but the Deluxe version was no where close to the real Deluxe L.C. that started off as $1,000.00 in 1913. From what I gathered reading on various manufactures of custom shotguns, none ever came close to this L.C. Smith in price and workmanship.

The new book on L.C. Smith's is coming out soon, and it supposedly has lots of information (500 pages) and lots of photos. Interesting enough that it is stated that Brophy's research in his book was very precise.
Posted By: Don Moody Re: New L.C.Smith Book - 10/16/06 10:37 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by JDW:
Both had ventilated aluminum ribs by Poly Choke. Plus I think they both had beavertail forends.
JDW. This is not true. The Deluxe had a steel vent rib made by Simmons with their standard post spacing and only the Deluxe had the beavertail forearms.

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