I am looking for help on the date this gun was manufactured. The stamps on the barrels and action differ. Is the gun proofed in 46 or 59. To confuse things further I found a list online that showed the maker number to be 22?

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...39&cdn_bp=1

Appears the tubeset & water-table wear a date of 1959.


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Raimey
rse

46 - Josef Schonlieb, so he must have made it for Josef Hamsbrusch or acquired the concern?

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Raimey
rse

If Jani doesn't have knowledge, I can do a bit of diggin' to see what may have occurred.


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Raimey
rse

Too, there should be a preliminary datastring higher up or further out on the lower rib. See if you might obtain an image of that.

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Raimey
rse

http://www.shotguns.se/html/1945--.html

This 1959 Hambrusch #1040 was a two barrel set. The other barrel was proof number 3246.

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Jani

OK 3245 is the proof number. 46 ( not 22 ) is the Maker number and 59 is the year.

Jani, I did see a 1 on the barrels and wondered about that.

I appreciate all the info!

Ah, a 2 barrel set. I didn't even read the text. Lovely sleuthing there Jani.

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Raimey
rse

Mark,
Not quite. 3245 is the proof number of the barrel number 1. Barrel number 2, not a part of this sale, should be proof number 3246. The proof number on the water table (action/receiver) is a combination of these two numbers. 59 is the date of proof 1959 of course. I can see no maker's code, which was not mandatory by 1959 anymore; the maker choose to apply his full name on the rib instead.

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Jani

Now that makes sense . Thanks for the clarification . This is why I still come here!

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So >>3245-46.59<< where the - denotes inclusion not a datastring. 3245 - 3246.59; so on a 2 barrel set why abbreviate that and not just stamp 3245 - 3246.59 to show it was inclusive. By the way, what year did the Brit issued Ferlach maker's number drop by the wayside.

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Raimey
rse

Proof number is a way of masking the actual maker in order to prevent preferential treatment @ the proof facility.

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Raimey
rse

Why shorten the long stamping? Less work, of course
The Brit left after a decade. So about 1955 and afterwards some makers kept the old system while others dropped it.

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Jani

Indeed, less work. But just as the title of the thread suggests, much confusion.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Josef Just 3 barrel set. I wonder if an example w/ more than 3 exits?

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Raimey
rse