I don't much hold with people posting political stuff on this board. But being in an area subject to French internet, if I want to use goggle - say to search for Reily's or Didier Drevet barrels or other topics I'm interested in, I have to get French government permission per below. France has always been centralized since Louis XIV, 50% of the economy is still controlled by the French State, and labor law down to the amount of time you must give for coffee breaks is regulated by a massive 1921 law passed in the Socialist/Marxist era which is thousands of pages long. But this intrusion "to protect people" from Google is really a bridge too far. I search using yahoo when in Paris to avoid this.

That's very interesting. Do you know why the French Gov't. felt this was necessary, and why they imposed this for Google searches but still permit Yahoo as a search engine?

I'd have to assume that it was people of the Liberal Left Socialist persuasion who saw the need for this. I don't speak or read French, but I'll bet this was ostensibly done to "protect" the French people from radical notions like personal freedom.

Can't read French, can anyone give me a quick synopsis on what is being said?

Ditto

TM

Loose translation, "Isn't it to bad Hillary wasn't elected in 2016 so we could have kept robbing and stealing and thieving without limits or boundaries."

At the very bottom of the message it reads,

"Damn those old white males for showing up at the polls."

Treblig, I think your French is parfait. However, you missed the part about "coming to a theater near you if the regressives get rid of Trump."

Thank You James, I pride myself on the way I butcher other country's languages.

They're trying hard but they've never seen anything like this guy. They're finding out what an Alpha Dog really looks like.

Vive la France!

Although we tend to criticize France and the French, it's good to remember that they are one of our more reliable partners in the war on terror. Particularly active in Africa. Back about 40 years ago, I found myself briefing the 82d Airborne G2 on the counterintelligence threat in Zaire. They had a battalion ready to go on a rescue mission: Whites being held captive by a rebel group in the town of Kolwezi. Turns out the 82d did not have to go. A Foreign Legion airborne regiment went instead. Successful mission.

So what does that have to do with anything...just a brain fArt I guess.

Would you agree that Islam is going to destroy France ?

I think Larry means that it is great that France restricts the rights of its' own citizens while it kow-tows to Muslim immigrants.

thank you france for: bardot, beaujolais and bourguignon...and least we forget, 20,000 troops and a navy to defeat the british at yorktown...

With a couple of minor edits, that perfectly describes California and its labor code. But we don't have to speak French. Spanish maybe, but not French.

We live to work while they work to live. This maybe incomprehensible concept to some. In addition to that they probably enjoy paid vacations, paid maternity leave of at least six months, universal healthcare, earlier retirements, labor laws (like employer can't call you after work hours to bother you), they can't tell employee they no longer have a job when they show up for work next day.... You know things that working stiffs here can only dream of.

So I guess no one is going to translate this !

And they should be a partner. Chances are most terrorist's parents weren't even born that far back. Good for them for choosing to pitch in out in Africa, they are probably also the model for importing and enabling domestic terrorism. Vive la US?

Eis, maybe argo44 could - he made the post.

If you study the history of the American Revolution I believe you will find there was a lot more at stake than France "Assisting" the Colonies against England. It was more like France was using the Colonies to Assist them in their on-going conflicts with England, & what better place to do it than on American soil.

Saw the title to this and thought it was about some very pretty au pairs starting their own country. What a jip.

L Brown

I had a few beers (Almaza) with some Legionnaires over in Beirut at Brannigans our little hole in the wall club. I must have been really drunk ‘cause I couldn’t understand a word they were saying.

Interesting factoid about France. They once had a national hockey team and the king at the time expelled them for refusing to wear polka dot jerseys. He (the king) was into “gay apparel”. They thought about coming to Detroit (a French city at the time) but there was already a great hockey club there so they settled in Kweebeck, Canada and are called Les Kweebeckers. They are not very good.

Golf is not popular in France. Another reason to hate them.


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I used to have a client in Paris and spent one week a month in Paris for nearly two years. I very much enjoyed Paris (one would have to be obdurately obtuse no to enjoy Paris). Food, Wine, Drink9ng Establishments, Museums, Public Architecture, QUALITY GUN SHOPS, everything you could expect to find on a great city.

Alas, I really can't say that I enjoyed doing business with the French.

Exactly, A country, especially a republic, should be run for the benefit of all its citizens, not just the 1 % wealthiest at the top. The alternative is the liberal, let the open market decide everything, profit first, middle and last ideal.

I was never in Paris, but spent time in Lyon and St. Etienne. The French were wonderful to me. Not sure what exact restrictions are posted above, but, when I was there I met guys with wonderful gun collections. Hunting was mostly for really, really, rich people, but, there were several clays ranges in both towns.
Want a gun, buy a gun. Want ammunition, go to the store and get it. No questions or forms to screw with. That may have changed, but, it was more restrictive, here, at the time, to buy a gun than in France. The one taboo was military calibers, you couldn't own 45-70, 30-06, 9mm, .45, and some other useful calibers, but, there were plenty of others to choose from. .270, .280, and 300 Win mag were hot when I was there.
Some people I dealt with, in France, bent over backward to help me. One guy, the guy I did most of my business with, grew into a dishonest prick. There was another shyster, but, a former importer clued me in to his act, and I avoided him. I had more problems on my end, then with France, or, Frenchmen.
You don't have to look too hard to find American gunsmiths with poor reputations, or, work ethics, either. Just sayin'.
I've been told most of the gunshops in Paris simply are no more. The Muslim population in Paris is high, and France instituted some unwise immigration policies from former colonies, again, mostly Muslim. The French native population is among the most elderly in the world, and it was thought new immigrants would become skilled and industrious workers, get jobs, and assimilate, helping to support the welfare state.
This hasn't happened. Assimilation isn't what it once was.
Certainly, France was not alone in this mistake, Sweden and Germany have similar issues at the moment. The US had no legal immigration from 1924 until 1965, to allow the new immigrants to assimilate, and I suspect it would work again, here, or, there. That is all I'll say about that.


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It probably doesn't matter how the restriction translates, as long as it promotes progressive assimilation.

Well, it's easy to make people from EU countries that had colonies to feel better. Alls you gots to tell is that by that by accepting immigrants from developing countries and giving them benefits they're paying them for what yours European grandparents and great-gandparents stole from them. Personally I don't feel bad for the English or French at all. First you rob then you get robbed. Fair, yes? Aliah Akkar!

No. But I do agree that I know a good bit more about both Islam and France than you do.

Actually Craig, it has a whole lot to do with France having been one of the two major colonial powers in Africa. As for terrorism in France, one could say there's been a significant shift. At one time the concern was with those French citizens angry at the government when De Gaulle decided to leave Algeria--which had been a department of France (like one of our states) rather than a colony, and home to about a million Frenchmen. More recently it's because residents of those former colonies, not necessarily Muslim radicals, immigrate to France in search of better jobs. (Logical place for them to go, because they already speak the language.) If things don't work out for them, easy for radical imams to steer them down the road to terrorism. But whether France is the model . . . England and Spain have also had significant problems. Matter of fact, both those countries had their versions of 9/11 before the more recent terrorist incidents in France. So that would seem to indicate that France is not "the model" for importing domestic terrorism.

France had colonies in Africa, South America and SE Asia so they need to take some in to pay what is due to them. In 50 or less the newcomers will accomplish what Turk with sword couldn't. It might benefit the French too as mixed babies are pretty and loss of finger(s) maybe good antidote to stealing. They will give them what EU government can't a death penalty. Several breaks per day for self-reflection also good. Aliah Akkar.

Jag, I don't think I've ever given you a hard time here, but you are getting into bad territory with the terrorism jokes. Just Saying...Geo

Thank you. I have fixed that little misunderstanding for you. Word meditation can also be substituted for prayer if that is what makes you more comfortable.

The warning has nothing to do with shotguns. It warns that "conforming to the law regarding personal data, we (Google) ask that you etc". It is obviously a corporate rear protection exercise. How that connects to shotguns I cannot see.

Worth noting that arms licensing in France is handled by the Prefecture not the police, because as they see it a law abiding citizen has no reason to have dealings with the police. Different cultures different approaches I guess.

There are, of course, many more western European and Scandinavian countries that also have, not had, significant problems.

I appreciate that you made references to recent shifts, thus my thought that current electronic data collection has little to do with limited military cooperation with the US forty years ago. There also seems to be very little indication that most French terror threats are due to repatriated descendants of French citizens from previous colonies.

It wouldn't be a stretch to argue that the face of 'the model' for enabling European terrorism is the no go zone. I decided not to quote it, but it really did strike me as odd that you feel it's not necessarily 'muslim radicals'. Yet, in the following sentence, there are already radical imams present and they are in fact radicalizing more muslims.

Yes Larry, once again you demonstrate your knowledge and brilliance. If we added your I.Q. to Jagermeister's I.Q., we'd still be in single digits :









https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/



That's tellin' him Geo. I'm sure he'll change his ways after that harsh lecture!

Reading political news always makes me depressed. But when I read it from you guys, I always get a couple of good laughs.

Today's notable quote is from Ted:"Assimilation isn't what it once was."

FAKE SIGNS. Those pictures are problematic. Please note they're made by one individual also note what the letters 9 and 11 look like. I doubt what is written was present on original posters shown at this demonstration.

Hmmmm, great detective work, but they might not be fake. I think you figured out, heck you could've just asked, that this is coordinated, intentional subversion, and not a spontaneous peaceful protest.

Do you think the print shop that can crank out a bunch of copies made by one individual is in collusion with the radical muslims who refuse to assimilate. Or, is it the baker and the gay wedding syndrome where the printer would get strung up by the family jewels for offending a sensitive and entitled group? May you have a prosperous new year and a submissive goat.

You are the problematic fake Jagermeister. You give advice on shotguns you've never used or never owned, and claim to own guns that you merely had on Layaway or 24 hour hold, and never followed through on the purchase. You lie about reloading and hunting and the number of guns you own.

Nevertheless, craigd is correct about protest organizers who supply signs with the same writing or printing. Would you question the legitimacy of an Obama rally if you saw a number of identical rainbow or similar signs? And exactly what was wrong with the 9 and the 11 on one sign? They are Arabic numerals, and they are the date that your friends killed almost 3000 innocent Americans who never hurt them or colonized their countries.

Of course you could always Google "Muslim Protests France" or "Muslim Protests London" or "Islamic Protests" and then click on "Images" to see literally thousands of photos of Islamists protesting and threatening Infidels. And you could have checked out the Religion of Peace link I provided to read about the animals you regularly defend here:

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

You were pretty quick to make a comment about the Las Vegas shooter and his use of bump-fire stocks, but I notice you were totally silent when I mentioned that an Islamist killed far more people in Nice, France with 86 deaths and 458 injured using a truck as a weapon. Maybe you'll tell us that was fake too.

So when can we expect you to analyze your fake and false information Jagermeister? I'd guess it will happen shortly after you actually buy a double shotgun... or some time after Hell freezes over.

Yeah. The good old melting pot, these days, is far too often like one of those plates divided into segments. Salad doesn't mix with the meat, etc.

Goes back to a lack of assimilation. Doesn't make much difference whether it's "the projects" in Chicago or some urban areas in various European countries. If people of one race, religion, ethnic group, whatever end up in what amounts to a ghetto, that's a recipe for problems. We don't have to look too hard to see it in our own country.

What's interesting is that Muslim terrorists in Europe are often referred to by the country from which they (or, quite often, their parents) immigrated--even though they may very well be a French, Spanish etc citizen. When I read about Moroccan terrorists in France or Spain, a bit more reading often reveals that they are in fact French or Spanish citizens, and may very well have been born in France or Spain.

Also interesting to note that Morocco has minimal issues with terrorism. So it's not exactly like the disease is grown there and then exported.

Larry Brown don't do your Muslim heAd spin...

All Muslims are terrorists in waiting citizen or non citizen.



Only two outcomes...

Muslims will either destroy France or the French will destroy Muslims in their country.

That statement might qualify our foreign fiend for the US terrorist watch list.

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All Muslims are terrorists in waiting citizen or non citizen.

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We need help from Muslim population to help us cope with extremest movements and individuals associated with them.

And thus, the philosophizing in circles. Does it really take much imagination to figure out what sort of assimilation vacuum would form if the mayor chicago were entitled to be queen of morroco? Meat-n-salad don't mix in a progressive blender. You see, the host country is still the salad, and the trimmings can be selected and used to compliment.

jOe, our ex-intelligence analyst Larry Clown apparently hasn't heard the news yet about the series of Muslim suicide bombings in 2003 in Casablanca, or the series of Muslim suicide bombings in Casablanca in April and May of 2007. In my opinion, poor Larry Clown is either woefully uninformed, just plain dumb, or too dishonest to tell you about the nationality of the Islamic terrorist who was responsible for the 2017 Barcelona, Spain terrorist attack. He was Moroccan-born Younes Abouyaaqoub.

Then there was the April 2011 suicide attack that blew apart a well-known tourist cafe in the Moroccan city of Marrakech killing at least 15 people, including 11 tourists, and injuring at least 20 more.

Real intelligence analysts who actually exhibit some intelligence and who apparently aren't so committed to concealing the threat of Islamic terror in Morocco say it is very likely that there will be more attacks in Morocco. A quick search can provide you with multiple instances of other attacks in Morocco, and attacks that were thwarted before the Islamists could kill again. It is well known that there are active ISIS and Al Qaeda cells operating in Morocco.



This comment from Jagermeister is about as stupid as saying we need guys like Ed Good, King Brown, rocky mtn bill, or our other FUDD's to help us in our fight against anti-gunners. These guys aren't part of the problem... they are the problem. You might as well bring a colony of termites into your wood framed house.

In nearly every country in Europe, people have become disillusioned with the constant influx of muslims. There was the constant terror attack, be it by way of knife attacks, gun attacks, explosives as in Manchester, or by way of someone hiring/stealing a van or lorry and driving its into a crowd.

This has seen the very scary rise in the far right, most notably in German for the first time in 70 years with the AFD becoming the third largest party there.

Mamma Merkel decided she was going to be mother to all the waifs and strays of asia/africa, she said "come to Germany", and when they did, over one million of them, she expected to be able to allot every country in the EU a portion of them. Some countries such Poland, told her very firmly NO.

My only interaction with a muslim, was when at a factory i was working in as a machinist, a muslim guy who was employed as a floor sweeper/labourer, was caught stealing some very expensive micrometers, verniers, cutting tools and he was posting them back to Pakistan. When finally caught (red handed), he stated cooly that what he was doing was not a crime, because as he was a muslim, it was neither a crime or a sin to take from the infidels.

And its going to get worse. They're just waiting for the right time.

And back in the mid-19th century, American "nativists" were seriously concerned that our country was heading down the road to ruin because of all those evil Irish Catholics who were coming here. Somewhat later, Italian Catholics. (Hey--they brought us the Mafia, if you care to assess the long term damage done here by one particular group of criminals.) Always a fear of those who aren't exactly like "us". Having lived among them--moving to Morocco from the Washington DC area--I can tell you for sure that I was more concerned with my safety, and that of my family, in the DC area than I was in Morocco.

Muslims in this country comprise approximately 1% of the population. American Muslims, in general, are better educated and more successfully assimilated than is the case in Europe. And comprise a far smaller segment of the population. If I were to express concerns about crimes committed by members of a specific ethnic or religious group in the USA, Muslims would not be at the top of the list. One would have to ignore the nightly news to suggest otherwise.

Oh great sick in the head Muslim defender....

All Muslims are terrorists in waiting.

Very very few have assimilated into our society...most have created their own non American society.


Larry I do feel sorry for someone that would expose their own flesh and blood to these infidel people....

Tell us again what a loving society Muslims are I'm sure we all need a good laugh.

Well Joe . . . my own "flesh and blood" (daughter) was raised by a couple of those people. I cannot imagine better care for her. But then that's only actual experience, vs paranoia.

My, my. Anything more recent than 7 years ago, Keith? If you want to keep track on a year by year basis, the State Dept issues annual country terrorist reports. The report on Morocco for 2016 (2017 not available yet):

"While no terrorist incidents occurred in Morocco in 2016, Morocco's counterterrorism efforts and cooperation with international partners led to numerous disruptions of alleged terrorist cells and prosecutions of associated individuals . . . " Followed by a list of said disruptions.

You see, Keith . . . and I know I have to explain all of this to you, lacking as you are in either military or intelligence experience . . . those earlier terrorist incidents you cited energized the government of Morocco to take more PROACTIVE steps against terrorists. ("Proactive" = disruption, arrest, etc BEFORE the attack occurs. Rather than simply REACTING after it happens.) When we do similar things in this country, that's considered a "win" for counterterrorism. Same standard applies in Morocco.

Let's see . . . likely that there will be more attacks in Morocco, when Keith can't come up with any since 2011. Sure, doesn't mean they should let down their guard. But it does mean that they're doing a pretty good job. After all, when's the last year that we haven't had any Islamist terrorist attacks in THIS country? And compared to Europe in general, we're doing pretty well in that area. But not--interestingly enough--compared to Morocco. They're doing better than we are. And it's a Muslim country. Compare to other places in North Africa, like pretty much everywhere other than Morocco. They're #1 in the region when it comes to dealing with terrorism. That's what a real analyst would observe . . . based on the most current information.

Now, back to ignore for Keith . . . since he tends to post only fake news.

If Catholic immigration during the 1800's and life in Morocco during the 70's are on the table, seven years ago might not be reaching back too far. Heck, doesn't the intel say a western family could have lived quite safely around that same time in an Iran under the Shaw? And, look what happens when there's no proactivity and all enabling.

Regardless of your enthusiasm Morocco, would you take minor children and a wife there today, to live for two to three years? Yup, I know you're gonna say yes, but how many taxpayer dollars of your time would be dedicated to their security. Still, none of this has to do with the political mentality that would enable a European no go zone or a Chicago south side.

Are 'we' really doing pretty well or are we just lucky to some extent. Where enabled, don't we have somali thugs intimidating folks in middle class Mn neighborhoods, and documented sharia courts of law dotted through out the US? Didn't, just two days ago, the top kali law enforcement officer, announce that he's using the power of his position to punish, by criminal prosecution, law abiding US citizens if he feels like they assist federal law enforcement opposing their 'sanctuary' policy. The first no go US state?

No, I don't think the proactivity of Morocco has much to do with the French nanny state. Besides, enabling cultures can't stomach heavy handed security forces. You're claiming a bunch has changed over the last seven years in Morocco, are you forecasting that the US will be one sprawling ghetto in seven years?

If the muslim imports are so benign, why is everyone worried about them and their bad behaviour ? I do not read about the same problems with the buddists, jewish, or sikh's.

Larry Clown, our brain dead ex-intelligence analyst has me on IGNORE, yet has once again responded to me. How is that even possible??? It shows just how much we can believe or trust Larry.

Larry is gloating because he actually thinks there has been no Islamic terror activity in Morocco in the last 7 years. I informed this agenda driven idiot that there is much more information on Islamic terror activity in Morocco that can easily be found with a cursory internet search. Since Larry is too stupid to accomplish that, and chooses instead to cherry pick only the news that there were no attacks in Morocco in 2016... here is one for him that is much more recent than 7 years ago. This is from Nov. 5, 2015:

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/life-sty...n-tourists.html

Larry Clown pretends to IGNORE me because he cannot stand to be proven wrong. And right there in the link above is more proof that it is Larry who provides fake news in order to support his ignorance.

Larry also seems to want us to simply forget that the attacker in the deadly 2017 Barcelona, Spain attack came from Morocco, and that Moroccans are lucky that authorities have been able to thwart numerous other attacks in recent years. To this idiot, an attack that was thwarted means there was minimal threat. Larry would have us believe that simply because he paid a Muslim to raise his children without them getting killed by their babysitter, that we should simply cover our eyes and forget about the 32,407 Islamic Terror attacks that have been carried out around the world since 9/11.

1036 people were killed in December 2017 alone in Muslim terror attacks around the world. 218 were killed during only six days this month. In the same time period, how many were killed by Irish Catholics or Italian Americans, or Jews?

Here is a list of Killings in the Name of Islam in the last 30 Days:

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=

In my opinion, Larry is to CIA Intelligence gathering capabilities what Jagermeister is to actual experience with double shotguns... A big fat nothing blow-hard. But at least Jagermeister doesn't run and hide from his profound ignorance. I'd expect Larry to do as he has done so many times in the past and cry to Dave to lock this thread.

Craig: As is often the case, some of your post confuses me. But I'll do my best. Irish Catholics . . . well, we did end up with Irish-American gangsters, didn't we? Just like we ended up with the Mafia as a result of Sicilian immigrants. Hard to find an immigrant group that was 100% squeaky clean.

A lot of Americans did live nice, quiet lives under the shah. But President Carter and the Shah were such close friends that when the Shah requested that the CIA only work with his security service (Savak) and not gather any intelligence unilaterally, Carter agreed. And passed on the instructions to the ambassador, who passed them on down to CIA's chief of station. Result: For a couple years before the Shah was driven from power, we had essentially no reporting on the religious opposition . . . because Savak was telling the Shah what he wanted to hear. Which was: there is no threat. So we got blindsided due to a policy blunder, not an intelligence blunder.

I don't think the Twin Cities cops have given up any authority to the Somalis. And the FBI is watching as well. I've read about several Somalis being arrested because they were leaving to join Al Shabab, or being arrested when they came back. Similar to Morocco: Proactive counterterrorism. And that's what CT is all about. If you're not going to be proactive, you might as well shut down all counterterrorism operations . . . and save the taxpayers a bunch of money. Of course more Americans will probably die . . . But if you only want to react, we can always catch the bad guys afterwards. If they don't commit suicide and save us the trouble.

You don't like it that Morocco is doing better in the CT business? Wow. You're a hard guy to please, Craig. We're also doing pretty well . . . frequently arresting people who were (until ISIS collapsed in Syria and Iraq) heading off to join ISIS or were planning some terrorist act in this country. That's good news to me. And I don't see quite how Morocco could be a "sprawling ghetto" unless you consider that's what it is just because it's a Muslim country. Nor do I fear that this nation is ever going to become one. And yes, if I were working for Uncle Sam, I would willingly return with a wife and minor children to Morocco. We didn't live in fear then, even though we had incidents with Black September putting shoebox bombs under a couple cars outside the embassy. We didn't live in fear then. We just took precautions. But one HUGE difference between, say, Morocco and Libya at the time of the Benghazi attack: the Moroccan govt, then and now, found it in their interest to protect foreigners. And have done a pretty darned good job of it. For that matter, I spent a fair amount of time in the countryside, hunting with Moroccans; fishing with Moroccans, etc. Unarmed . . . well, except for my shotgun when we were hunting birds or wild boar. I didn't worry any more than I did when I was taking my military intelligence unit to England for active duty, back when IRA terrorists were still active. I always joked that if they killed any of us, it would be by accident--Americans being a source of funding for them, via collecting money for "the cause" in Irish bars in the States, etc.

Sorry, really, about the confusion. Here's a little nutshell of my thoughts.

I hope you could tell that I was comparing and contrasting political will and agenda, rather than ranking the various countries position in the 'CT business'? The thing I 'like' and don't like about the Moroccan approach to their success is that they are not constrained by our checks and balances, and exploit it. But, as you should know, our laws are selectively enforced based on ideology, within our borders.

We're, as you mention, doing well also, but I'd hope you can see my point that there now are US cities, counties, states and administrations that do not have the best interests of the US CT business in mind, and by extension US citizens. A developing example is looking like your beloved agency, along with the fbi and doj were tasked by the last admin to attack lawful citizen political opponents, rather than keeping on the sharp end of the CT business.

This is some funny stuff. Keep it going.

And Larry, we get it. You love Moraccans and hate the Irish. Just please stop with the boring stories of....

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I'll move on from the Muslim stuff to the above. Chris Steele, author of the famous/infamous dossier on Trump, stopped cooperating with the FBI because he felt that organization was under the influence of Trump supporters. Then, from the other side, we hear that no, the FBI was following political guidance from the Obama/Clinton camp. Sometimes, such charges are based on politics rather than facts. I think I'll wait for the smoke to clear.

As far as the CIA being ordered "to attack lawful citizen political opponents" . . . by law, there's very little the CIA can do in relation to gathering intelligence on American citizens. For example, if CIA wants to surveil a US citizen in this country, they have to have the FBI do it for them. And that can be done only via request from the director of the CIA to the director of the FBI (or their designees). And the request must be made in writing--leaving a "paper trail", just in case anyone decides to play fast and loose with the rules. CIA did spy on Americans during the Vietnam era, got burned, and there are now specific laws that would be violated if that were to take place. So if you know about it, Craig . . . instead of talking about it on a BB, do your duty as a citizen and report it to the FBI. The current directors of both the CIA and the FBI are Trump appointments, so any "political prejudice"--which should not exist in either agency--ought to be clear.

I don't know Larry, the emails between those three in the FBI who are that far up in the food chain is pretty disturbing. Its far beyond an 'opinion' from those three as its becoming increasingly apparent that they were willing to break the law in order to stop the President.

No one is above the law except those that support the right candidate?

What is even more disturbing is it seems that the FBI and State Department are infested with them.

Of course Larry Clown wants to change the subject. The crybaby could never ever admit that he is wrong. And I'm losing count of how many time the dolt has responded to me after telling us that he is IGNORING me. Larry is like the Liberal Left gift that keeps on giving. I love it when these guys offer incontrovertible proof that Liberalism is a mental disorder.

I'm sure he won't even look at The Religion of Peace website:

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=

One thing that stands out when you do check it out is the very real truth that there is no similar website dedicated to Irish or Italians, Catholics, Bhuddists, Protestants, Mormons, Jews, Baptists, Hindus, Presbyterians, etc. The amount of violence committed in the name of Islam is unequaled by any other religion in modern history. And they had a pretty good reputation for the same behavior in ancient history too. But it takes someone who actually has some intelligence to understand that.

But to be on the safe side... watch out for Nuns with suicide vests!

I no longer believe that all those attacks are due to religious beliefs. Clearly some are using religion as excuse to divert from other problem(s). I no longer believe leaving this topic open is of any benefit at all.

Now there's a thought and a half. In fun or seriously, is it safe to assume that you clear all you talk about on the bb's with the proper authorities? I think I'll wait for it to clear too, but I'm pretty sure the smoke is about breaking law, and not just a generic rundown of what to skirt around. We'll see.

Based on history of their country the French are getting what they deserve. What would the world say if Native Americans and African Americans rose up and caused problems here. Let us remember that this country arouse not only from dedication and hard work of European Americans but also through shameless exploitation of American Indian and slave labor from Africa. Many if not most sensible EU citizens would say we got what we earned. It's obvious we will not agree on points made here, therefore, it maybe good time to move on. There plenty of more interesting topics for discussion.

Oh please, JM. Act on your impulse! Move on! Go infect some other forum and leave us alone.

Leave Jag alone, c-back. I like to see what kind a crazy stuff he is going to say.

Jag. I think you meant aboriginals. I’m a Native American. Born in Detroit, Michigan.

I did scan the church today for nuns and spotted a couple. They looked docile enough with their Rosaries and habits but sat on the other side just to be safe. Put the wife between us for added security. She asked why we were sitting where we were so I told her about Larry. Her reply to me is not suitable for this forum let alone church. I said an extra prayer for her.

The French will save us with their Force Frappe. How delicious coffee is going to help I don’t know, but Canadian Brown says it will.


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Inappropriate song here.
https://youtu.be/ySGSb3pCUEM

I go to 7:30AM service each Sunday because that is when one of local police department officers in uniform comes. I fee that is he feels safe I should also feel safe. I remember a case in Russia where assassin hired to kill Russian business man. The only place he went w/o armed guards was to church. The assassin stood behind ready for fire fatal shot, but he didn't because he realized he was in House of God. Killing in place of worship is forbidden.

Stepped in it there, Jag. Last sentence. Wait ‘till keith gets back from church.


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Michigan! the water wonderland!
https://youtu.be/L0WRVBVc4l0

That's how they got Hymie Weiss, knowing that the only time he left his guard down was after church on Sunday.

The Capone gang allegedly brought in Vern Miller but he refused and they went with Jack McGurn. Al Capone wasn't the only gangster afraid of Hymie Weiss.

Keep in mind, lonesome, that Christians, Jews and Muslims are monotheistic One God brothers of the Abrahamic religions. Each has much to answer for their brutal defence against those who take up arms against God---right up to the present. Singling out Muslims, in terms of what we did and they did, is silly.

He he he, stick it Jm and bring up relevance. Oops, he's watching, thank you for your decorum. Does it become unsilly if the terms are changed to 'what we do and they do'?

Preaching to the choir, King.




Hymie Weiss. Got the trifecta. Italian, Irish, and Polish. I’m doomed.


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Guess I’ll just smoke and drink the rest of the day.

Argo,
The French (and most other Europeans) have been far more concerned about their privacy than the American people, for whatever reason.
Therefore data collected from individuals has to be disclosed to said individuals.
This started in the early 90's IIRC, well before the Internet.
The Internet as you know has made things exponentially worse.
Google's raison d'etre is to collect as much information as possible about YOU as they can. This is creepy to say the least.
Wouldn't you be interested in knowing what they know about you?
We like Google because they do not charge us for an amazing service, but they make their money (and gobs of it) by selling your information and your meta-information to anyone who wants to buy it.
This model is clashing with the existing French privacy laws, hence the notice.
We are soon reaching a point where privacy is a complete illusion, as all the providers collect data about you. They know what you buy, what you like, who you like, who you don't like, they infer how you vote, etc.
Aren't you worried about this? I am.
Who knows how that could be used?

If the information is wrong (as could happen with homonyms and other identity theft issues), there is no practical way to fix things.

Today I am not making any changes to my way of doing things, but this might change.

Best regards,
WC-

Don't write anything on the net you would not write to your loved one in a personal letter and you will be ok. There is little or no privacy on the net.

I agree with this. If Google wants to tell the world I smoke and drink mid shelf booze what do I care. I do however put a small piece of tape over any cameras on my iPhone. They don’t need to see me lampin in my boxers.


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Keep in mind when the "Promise" was made to Abraham that "Through Thy Seed Shall All Nations of the Earth be Blessed", this promised was stated to come through his son Isaac, no
such promise was ever made through Ishmael, so Mohammad was trying to justify a "Tangent" to the "Word Of God" . This promise was fulfilled through the coming of the Lord & Savior, Jesus, The Son of God. Israel "Blew It" when they had him nailed to a Roman Cross. Only those who believed on & accepted the commandments of Jesus received benefit of the blessings, but then they were no longer Israelites but Christians.

You will of course not stand in Judgement on my word, but on the Word of God, which is Truth.

Yes we heard it many times that all Muslim are peaceful prosperous people, until they're not.

Until the Muslim community starts to turn in their own they will not gain anyone's complete trust.

Britain has had massive muslim immigration over the years. They settle an area, usually the north of england cities such as leeds or bradford, also manchester, and simply do not integrate. A report by the uk government a few years back into the subject, discovered that there are people who had come to the uk back in the 1970's, usually women, who have have not one word of english. They have disdain for the rights of women, non muslims, gay people etc.

Some of the apologists, usually the lefties, say that is because of lack of education. However two muslims were caught planning a terrorist attack recently were both qualified chemists and by extention had doctorates. So that sort of scotches that theory.

Truth is they are all terrorists in waiting and they do it in the name of their savior....

Until the cult is buried in the sands of the Shara for good their terrorists acts will continue.

All the while they were probably tapping you for US intelligence....

Because as you've shown the world yOu aint't the brightest bulb in the closet.

Well Craig . . . you said it's breaking the law. Based on what evidence? Federal employees are permitted to participate in politics. Either party. If they're planning some sort of covert action to interfere in an election . . . well then, since they're not Russians but American citizens, that would certainly seem to make them subject to prosecution. But like I said, since the evil Comey is no longer running the Bureau and it's now Trump-appointed Christopher Wray, shouldn't we have more confidence that the FBI will look into any anti-Trump (or, for that matter, anti-Hillary) skullduggery that took place during the election?

Meanwhile, the House Intel Committee has so far refused to show their famous memo on FBI sins to the FBI. Since all that stuff happened before Wray took over, wouldn't the proper approach be to share the memo and supporting evidence with the man Trump appointed to run the place so he can do whatever housecleaning is necessary? Seems a good idea to me . . . unless the only purpose of the memo is to score political points. And we have WAY too much of that going on. From BOTH sides.

Ah yes . . . my illiterate maid was a spy and read all the classified documents I regularly took home and reported to . . . whom? The Russians? We did quite a bit of work WITH the Moroccan govt . . .which makes sense, because the best way to keep Americans safe in a foreign country is if the local authorities provide the protection. Benghazi is an excellent example of what happens when you don't get any assistance from local authorities. And if you don't and if there's a terrorist threat, then doing anything other than hunkering down in the embassy and relying on the Marine guards to keep you safe means taking a pretty big risk.

Funny story about the maid. One day, my wife stayed home from her job in the embassy. Either she was sick or maybe our daughter was. Anyhow, we had a kerosene stove for heat and regularly received fuel deliveries. The kerosene man showed up that day. Fatima brings the bill to my wife to sign. (The embassy paid for it.) As she signs, a thought occurs to her: "Fatima, who signs the bill when I'm not here?" she asks. "I do, madame," replies the maid. "But Fatima," says my wife, "you can't write!" "That's OK, madame," replies Fatima. "The kerosene man can't read!"

Joe, compared to you, a snuffed out candle sheds a whole lot of light.

Truer words were never spoken jOe! That was a bottom of the ninth inning, seventh game of the World Series, game winning Grand Slam Home Run.

But all the evidence in the world... all the factual data proving that large numbers of these Muslims support jihad, do not assimilate, and feel no remorse or guilt about taking welfare benefits or property from the Infidels mean nothing to committed Libtards like Larry Clown and his older brother King.

The best and most accurate I.Q. Test we can give here is to see which so-called Gun Guys actually support and vote for the Liberal Left Democrat politicians who work tirelessly to restrict guns, ammunition, and hunting. It's tragic that anyone that stupid is even allowed to vote.

You took classified documents home, Larry?

Story about the maid sounds like an episode of I Dream of Jeannie.


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All he kept talking about, was Glory Days. Bruce Springsteen

Sirs and Fellow Double Gun Devotees. I’ve translated the missive I first posted. I was in Charles De Gaulle…waiting 7 hours for a flight and groggy from being awake for 20 hours already; and when that appeared on my google search, I immediately deleted it….did not click - don’t trust such messages. But it is not a Fench government post - rather it's a message from Google about privacy and looks to be an effort to protect the company from EU lawsuits. EU has targeted a number of US high-tech firms for legal actions which looks to be Brussels high-handedness (EU suites against Apple, Amazon, etc. all coming out of an unelected central bureaucracy in Brussels).

Anyway, I apologize for starting this line - it just gave an opportunity for Drunks-in-a-Bar - those guys with slurred voices and opinions about everything - to spout their unwanted and unread political rants and to indulge in vicious personal attacks against fellow free-Americans on a site devoted to sport and mechanical engineering. We live in a free country posting on an unmoderated free board which means (I guess) it's self-policed and relies on self restraint. Unfortunately it's degenerated to a point where one can vomit garbage whenever one wants - doesn't mean it's worth a tinker's damn and this baloney isn't. It must be too cold outside to hunt. Again my apologies for opening Pandora’s Box.

Translation:

Google……………….France

Before continuing;
In conformance with legislation relating to he protection of the users, we are asking you to take a few minutes to look over the principle aspects of our regulations on confidentiality. We have not modified them, and are adding this simply to allow you to familiarize yourself with these regulation.

You must complete this operation in order to continue to us Google services.

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Google……………….France


Reviewing the Confidentiality laws of Google.

Things that happen when you use Google services:

— The for example you search a restaurant on Google maps or look at a video on YouTube, we note the information relating to this activity, such as the video that you have looked at, identifying your computer, IP address, your cookies or your location.

— We also note the the of information mentioned above when you use application where you consult some sites using the services of Google, such as news, Google Analytics or the teaching videos on YouTube.

Why to we take note of this?

We note these particulars for reasons described in our regulations, notably the following:

to permit us to propose to you some sites/information useful to and personalized for you such as some results of research of the pertinent topics.
To improve the quality of our services and to develop new services.
To propose some announcements corresponding to your centers of interest and understand the basic searches that you have made or videos that yo’ve look at on YouTube.
To reinforce the security to better protect you against fraud and abuse.
To effect some analysis and take some measures in order to understand how our services are used.

Combining source data of the user.

We compile as well source information called up on our services and on your computers as previously described. For example, we effectively use the billions of searches to develop models to correct orthography used by the whole group of our sevices. We commit also the personal information in order to alert all users in the case of security risks

Discover how Goole uses personal information in order to offer a better user experience (^)

Finally if you connect to your google account before accepting these regulations of confidentiality, we will remember you choice so that all the navigators and the computers which you use will be connected.

Other Options…………………I ACCEPT

Argo

You and Larry in a bar together would be a hoot!


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I’m buying!

One would wonder, if someone, under you, showed up for work one day with one of those documents under their arm, do you laugh it off because it's funny?

After the smok'in-n-jok'in settles down, would you at least say, make sure you have vlad, our illiterate Moroccan file boy, put that away in our xerox room before he disappears on his routine three hour lunch in the crowded street market?

That reminds me of the hill-n-huma story that hill told on tv about using wipies on her computers and hammers on her phones. Of course, it's just a funny story from the good ole days as head of all embassies. She didn't have to tell it, but she got a good laugh out of it, eh?

France is a nanny state, seemingly overly protective of its citizens, as so many other countries with high standards of living, particularly superior health and education systems, and publics willing to pay for them.

For all that, I was surprised 10 or 12 years ago when a major Canadian private family corporation, world leader McCains, said France was the best of the 42 countries they do business with: slow, bureaucratic but ethical.


Miller, I admire persons of faith, either way. Christians, Jews and Muslims abide generally by their holy books. Heretics thrive among Catholics and Protestants, Shias and Sunnis etc by reading The Word differently for their purposes.

There’s a lot of similarity within the three Abrahamic religions. As in many Jewish texts, the Qu’ran recognizes Jesus as a prophet but not His divinity because---according to some scholars ---it would be a renunciation of monotheism.

The Qu’ran mentions the flood and the aborted sacrifice of Abraham’s son (although he’s not given a name) and, perhaps more germane to our discussion, nowhere does the Qu’ran refer to jihad in the sense of holy war or a legal system called sharia.

Muslim terrorism casualties are less than a gnat’s eyelash compared to those of colonization and “regime change“ of British, French, Portuguese, Spanish and American empires now all in decline, and the West has given up on having kids.

So, yes, by democratic means Muslims may have sovereignty, doing as they do in my province, working hard as community leaders, where Arabic is the second language in the capital of Halifax, the last time I looked. We’re proud of them.

Argo, Larry and King walk into a bar. The bartender says...


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Get the fook out!

Since we can justify just about anything, are you working on the free hunting licenses with complimentary room and board? I have a dream about the members of the non Canadian Sovereign Hunter's Association having gassed up Suburbans waiting at the airport with the keys under the drivers side floor mat and piping hot coffee in a thermos.

Don’t forget the Tim’s, King!


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Honey Dipped for me.

Where to begin....

First King, the problem IS that Muslims are abiding generally by their holy book. That, in a nutshell, is the problem. Because their holy book and their prophet are both rather specific about what they are supposed to do with us infidels.

And secondly, it is disingenuous to compare the behavior of colonizing Christians over the last 450 years with Islamic terrorists' killing over the last 30-40.

How about we compare outward Islamic aggression against non Islamic cultures since 800 AD and the same for Christians. Forgetting the Islamic aggression towards Europe, unprovoked Islamic genocide against Hindus on the Indian subcontinent over the last 900 years makes everything else pale in comparison.

Additionally, the Christian Reformation and then the Enlightenment set Christians on a path of denouncing their past excesses and, said in a more modern vernacular, cleaning up our act. Muslims are centuries away from that kind of thinking. And those Muslims that do, do so because of the example of Western Christian morality.

There's lots for good discussion there, James. All three Peoples of the Book also haven't rid themselves of their declared misogyny evidenced by women's demonstrations currently around the world, or of their need to destroy those who take up arms against One God. Christian morality has nothing to brag about there.

The holy books are much of their times. Not so long ago the Roman Catholic church was being called "the most criminal organization in the world" for its abuse of children, and still is, and South American churches were being burned to the ground during the Pope's current visit by faithful parishioners.

I'd be the last one to say any religion is superior to another, or possessing all truths in matters of faith according to scripture, James. Failing to follow Christ's injunction to love by condemnation of all Muslims seems sinful to me. We've enough defilers of our own to be picking on them.

What’s sinful is not having donuts with my free Suburban and coffee. I’ll have a double expresso (sic) Force Frappe please.


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Hung over at Willow Run.

I suppose King, I look upon it as a matter of degree.

In abuse of children, in abuse of women and in abuse of their fellow men, no religion currently comes close to Islam. That's a fact. You might wish it were different and I'm not saying the RC church or any other Christian group is perfect. But they are ALL less abusive towards other people, other men, women, children and animals when compared to Islam today.

I have no difficulty condemning Islam. It is a giant problem world wide. This is the classic fault of the left....moral relativism. That all are equal. It's not true. Islam, as practiced for the last 1000 years, is a blight upon mankind....especially for it's followers.

Expect an angry tweet from the mayor of London, canvasback.


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#Freedonutsnow!

We are fortunate King, that you are first to speak on all truth that is secular. I don't know if this even rises to equivocation when lack of assimilation is not only excused, but granted sovereignty by a handful of progressives imposing on the generosity of a host nation. Hopefully, there is a statute of limitations on lunacy, just as we reluctantly agree, in a bipartisan fashion, to stop prosecuting crimes from back in the middle ages. Can we please get back to the free hunting license topic?

No donuts! No peace!


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#Freedonutsnow!

Only vegan , gluten free, non-gmo donuts here in the bubble

It's my neice's birthday this week (she's an adult, I'm old). My sister invited my son and I to a birthday dinner later on this week, by text. She then texted me a picture of the (and I kid you not) "Gluten free, vegan, black bean, coconut oil, organic cocoa" cake she is making.

Although I'm an atheist, I'll say it here and now.....Thank God I already had other plans!

Oh, if only it were angry tweets and hurt feelings we could expect when someone speaks the truth about Islam. Instead, it's legally backed admonitions of racism from our local useful idiots or it's some tribalist in butt-$%^&* no where issuing a fatwa against me.

Good luck to all of them.

From Genesis to Revelations, the Bible has always been Monotheistic, It has always been & will continue to be about the "Son of God". Wars have been started by people seeking un-authorized power over others in the name of Christianity but wars are not Started by Christians.

Hang on King, you don't have to go on about how great these are. It's just like toeing the party line, tacit approval is plenty enough. Just kidding, careful not too much cbd oil on those sprouts-n-tofu.

edit to add, Thanks argo for revisiting the topic with a translation

What King Brown and his little brother Larry Clown have done here is to provide a good illustration of the dishonesty that characterizes modern day Liberalism.

If there was only one, or a very small handful of murderous or misogynist Christians, Bhuddists, or Jews, these two would go on and on forever preaching about some moral equivalency between those religions and Islam. They will never acknowledge facts, and will go so far as to edit or cherry pick facts to support their dishonesty and their Liberal Left agenda. And if all Christians were perfect, these two would go back a thousand years to find one that wasn't.

But even more telling is this... if Argo had initiated a thread here that became unflattering or insulting toward Christians, I don't believe for a nano-second that either King or his little brother Larry would jump in to defend them.

The only time King has anything nice to say about Catholics is when the Pope says something in support of gays. Pretty easy to read between the lines there, if you ask me.

You can debate disingenuous guys like this 'till the cows come home... or you can save a lot of time and just call a spade a spade... and call a Liberal Left anti-gunner supporter a Libtard.

D'ya suppose anyone obsessing continually on the board about a "lousy double gun" is an anti-gun, anti-NRA Libtard? Just saying!

They have vegan MRE’s now. Leave it to the Army to make something horrible even more horribler.


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They even took the candy out of them. Bullshit.

Hahahahahahaha!

Serious burn!

What the hell is donut snow and why must it be freed?

Aren’t hashtags supposed to be run together like that? I need to work on my social media skills.


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#Free Donuts Now!
(No donuts! No peace!)

Me thinks it's some kind of Republican NRA-ILA starlet. Maybe he wants some kiszka? He spells it Kiszkha. Not sure I can get Kosher Kiszkha for him.

Punchkee Day! All the tourists come Hamtramck’s way!


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I believe in Paczki Day.
https://youtu.be/aDU8dPu4IZA

"Just saying" is just saying King. Talk is cheap... and talk is often times dishonest when you are the one talking.

You can talk, or you can back up your idiotic statement with some quotes proving what you suggest.

I have had no problem at all providing direct unedited quotes of your anti-gun, anti-2nd Amendment, and anti-NRA rhetoric. But it appears that you would stoop to out of context statements about your Liberal friend Jagermeister not owning even one lousy double gun to suggest that makes me somehow anti-gun. You really are a fraud.

It is nice, however, to see that you are another Libtard who can't IGNORE me, and that I still get under your skin. Was it my observation that you get all excited by the Pope making statements in support of queers that got you flailing and jumping out of your closet again? Better hope your Muslim friends don't find out. They might show their tolerance by throwing your kilt wearing ass off of a tall building.

The old Magic Carpet Ride.


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Without the magic. Or carpet.

D'ya hear that old fear of being ignored again, a distinguishing and entertaining mark of full-blown narcissism?

You must be looking in a mirror, with a stethoscope in your ears and the diaphragm pressed firmly against your mouth.

Beat me to it.

Just flap your arms real fast, King. You’ll be fine.


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Short the U.S. I fookin’ dare ya.

C'mon King... you can do better than that. Where did you ever see any fear of being IGNORED? I'm frequently amused by Libtards like you and little brother Larry who claim to IGNORE me, but then repeatedly respond to me.

Here's a little riddle for you: What do you call a dishonest Liberal Left kilt-wearing Socialist anti-2nd Amendment troll with latent homosexual tendencies and reading comprehension problems?

Answer: King Brown

Just my opinion King, based entirely on your own words and actions. Now why don't you and your imaginary friends John F Kennedy and Martin Luther King just go back to drinking that brain damaging Nova Scotian hallucinogenic brew you distill from fermented lichens and perma-frost?

That’ll get yer arms flappin’!


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Hell, I might even try a shot of that.

Hmmm . . . I'm thinking someone failed geography. Permafrost in Nova Scotia? Sits on the same latitude as the Twin Cities. Aha! Now I understand why the Eagles kicked the Vikings all over the field. Those poor Vikings were permafrosted!

How can anyone be so smart yet be so stupid....

What do you gOOfy bass'turds want ?

Is that you, Joe . . . looking in the mirror and being confused, then finally stumbling upon the truth?