Trying to find a new 20 gauge field gun. It seems that my combination of likes is tough to find unless my budget moves into the 70 thousand dollar range (McKay).
Double triggers, english stock, 28 inch barrels, sub 7lb, schnabel forend and rounded receiver would be nice.
I've looked at Beretta AS, Browning Feather and B25, Winchester 101 and CG Evo light.
What am I missing?
Sounds like you're looking for an over/under. If it was a side by side, it wouldn't be as hard to find. AyA builds o/u guns with 2-triggers (but most are 12 bore). Look at Caesar Guerini, Rizzini, and maybe some of the Turks.
Your criteria seems pretty easily filled. But, I can't tell whether you have a budget of $1000 or $70,000 from what you posted.
Just check out GunsInternational.com for literally hundreds of gun in 20ga that may fit your criteria.
Sorry, I missed the O/U criteria.
You might consider getting a Superlight Superposed and having Art's Gunshop convert it to double triggers. But only a Superlight will be under 6 lbs in my experience and it'll be hard to find longer than 26 1/2" bbls.
Yup....my bad, O/U
Would like it to be between 5-10K. I feel like that is a lot of gun money and I should be able to find something fairly easily.
R_W,
Coles Gunsmithing can probably put a custom Beretta 6xx series gun together for you with the double triggers and straight stock. If you want a new, reliable gun, that's not a bad way to go. And I'd prefer a Beretta to a Caesar Guerini after having looked a the CG pretty hard a number of times.
Sorry about the first post referring to under 6 lbs. I'm loosing it. Any 20g/28" Superposed can be restocked to a straight stock and be under 7lbs. Art's can do the stock and probably the trigger conversion.
I'm going on Friday to look at CG Evo at local shop.
Curious about your hesitation, what do you not like about the CG offerings?
R_W,
A Beretta schnabel is available. I'd snatch that gun up in a heartbeat if I was looking for what you mentioned. It's a bargain IMO. Rich Cole will sell you a schnabel. My opinion is that custom Beretta is a something I'd be happy with if my criteria and budget was what you posted.
Re: CG's...I looked at the quality and they just don't match the Beretta. Some will disagree with me, but that's my opinion.
you are correct, that Browning is close. The superlight feather I have in 28g (26") is the reason I know I want 28 inch barrels. As for the Merk, I've always felt they swing like tanks. May be I need to check them out again.
Thanks for the help.
I've given some thought over the years to buying one of those butt ugly New Style Skeet Supers in Pigeon Grade and having it converted to a straight stock and schnable forend and do something with the chokes (screw-ins?). The New Style Skeet guns seem to be a stagnant market. Nobody seems to like that 2x4 of a forend, therefore the prices seem a little soft.
I would think that the browning superlight B2G COULD have 28 inch barrels fitted and Art's could do it.
http://www.artsgunshop.com/price-list.htmMike
Get a Rizzini. Well priced. Attractive. Reliable. And included a 3 year warranty. Below are a few models that might interest you. The last 2 are their rounded models. The prices shown are retail so you should be able to get them for a bit less.
Artemis - $3895
Artemis Light - $3995
Round Body - $4195
Round Body EL - $6495
I bought one of the B. Rizzini premium grades in 20ga with a schnable forend which list for about $15,000 but didn't have to pay that. It is really a nice gun and polished inside & out with hand cut engraving. I think the premiums are a really strong value. I think you can order them with double triggers if you prefer. I shoot mine for clays mostly as I have a 20ga Parker VHE for the field which has been with me for 30 years and we think alike.
Wish I had an extra 15 grand laying around:
Yes, BUT it has a SINGLE trigger
Mike
Don't think you'll find a Kraut OU with a schnabel--even though that's a nice German word. B. Rizzini, maybe top end of the I. Rizzini (FAIR). I don't know if they do DT's on the B Riz guns. They do (or did) on FAIRs, but SST was standard. I had a 900, think it was an LX version, in 16ga. Special order with DT's, straight, solid rib. Those features were all available, but the standard versions were all SST, round knob, vent rib.
I could over look that in this instance
Yes, BUT it has a SINGLE trigger
Mike
R_W,
So that Bgun didn't do anything for you?
It gone.
BTW, You were correct about the CG. Went over to see an Evo Light in person yesterday.
It has been judged, and been found lacking.