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Posted By: Phail "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/26/12 01:41 AM
"CEW" is marked on the underside of two shotgun barrells-W R Schaefer and
A G Genez-Breechloaders. Any idea of who this is? The mark is only on the
Left BBL
Thanks
Bill McPhail
Posted By: ellenbr Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/26/12 01:44 AM
How 'bout CFW Dr. McPhail?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/26/12 02:06 AM
I'm all but positive he was a Georg Lindner subcontractor. I would also add that Schovering, Daly & Gales more than likely were involved.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Phail Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/26/12 02:11 AM
CFW it is. The Schaefer BBLs are marked with a Crown over A. Genez has no
other under bbl markings
Thanks! .
Bill
Posted By: ellenbr Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/26/12 02:24 AM
I don't recall you being a photog, but any chance of any images?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Phail Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/26/12 03:06 AM
I will try to get my son to get some basic pictrures tomorrow
Thanks
Bill
Posted By: ellenbr Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/26/12 03:18 PM
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...true#Post159735

Yeah, see if Forrest can snap an image of the Crown/A(possibly Belgian inspector touchmark) thru a magnifying glass.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/26/12 10:03 PM










http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20a/a%20ancion%20dd%20et%20fils%20gb.htm
Interesting sleuthing by PeteM.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Phail Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/26/12 10:31 PM
Thanks Raimey
Pictures 1,3,5 are of an eight Ga Wm R Schaefer @ 1870
Pictures 2,4 are of a 10 Ga A G Genez @ 1870
CFW are on the Right not Left BBL
Crown/A on four of Seven Schaefers-one M/l others B/l
Have not seen CFW on any other guns
Reguards
Bill
Posted By: ellenbr Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/26/12 10:45 PM
http://freemycollection.com/?page=manufacturers&id=40&name=A-G-Genez

Some info on A.G. Genez but I think the Nov. 1860 date to be in error and it should read Nov. 1880. Sometime between 1875 & 1880 Vincent Bissig acquired the concern.


1871 A.G. Genez Advert


1871 Info noting 25 years in business


Nov. 1880 Vincent Bissig Advert


1871 The Daly Gun Advert noting W.R. Schaefer & Thos. L. Golcher

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: AaronN Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/27/12 01:42 AM
Originally Posted By: ellenbr
but I think the Nov. 1860 date to be in error and it should read Nov. 1880.


Thanks for pointing out my typo! I did mean 1880. It is fixed on there now.
Posted By: ellenbr Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/27/12 02:18 AM
Um hum, one of our merry band. You are most welcome.

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...809d6c860bbaadb

Dr. Bill have you any additional info on Genez? Did he have a wife by the name of Margaret Genez or a son by the name of Julius B. Genez?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Phail Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/28/12 04:15 PM
Raimey
Do not know his wife's name. Had a son George-do not know of
Julius. Have written info-
Genez was noted to make very fine derringers
Thanks
Bill
Posted By: ellenbr Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/28/12 04:16 PM
Thanks Bill. Got your email but have been terribly busy. Thanks for the post.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: obsessed-with-doubles Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/29/12 03:22 AM
BTW: Check out the Schaefer case on Ebay:

Schaefer Shotgun Case with maker's label

Pretty cool label.

And Bill - you should sell that 8g to me!

OWD
Posted By: Phail Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 12/29/12 09:25 PM
OWD
The 8 Ga is fairly unique-14lb 33 in. 3.12 in across breech, hinged forarm,
in an original Schaefer labeled case.
Also with L.D.N. on the locks under the hammers-probably one of the biggest
guns Nimschke engraved
And it does have a price=just haven't figured that out yet.
Reguards
Bill
Posted By: ellenbr Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 01/11/13 10:56 PM
Stumbled across a listing for an early H. Barella(Nr. 1688/2009) with the top rib displaying: H. Barella Konigl. Preussischer Kaiser L. Russischer Hof Buchsenni. Berlin given as a 0.62" calibre with 26 1/4" pattern welded tubes. Accompanying was an additional 30" pattern welded tubeset with A.G. Geynez(I assume to be Genez?), No. 9 Chambers St. N.Y. Haven't found any images just yet.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: "CEW" Barrell Marking? - 01/20/13 01:50 PM
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...true#Post291525

Just wanted to revive this thread as well as cross reference it to a W.R. Schaefer & Thos. L. Golcher - L. D. Nimschke with a few Belgian proofmarks.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse
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