Looking for some advice on "the" definitive book on Parkers.
As many of you know, I'm an English gun guy, but I starting shooting with this gentleman who seems real passionate about Parker.
He had a beautiful old 16 the other day but when I asked about it, I was quickly lost in DH-this and something else-that.
Amazon has a few titles, so I'm looking for some feedback on a a couple y'all would suggest.
The best conversation opener with a Parker guy is "Do you think you'll ever upgrade to an L.C. Smith?"
It works the other way around and you can substitute Fox in there as well.
Welcome to America
Suggest you post this on the Parker site:
http://parkerguns.org/forums/index.php
Suggest you post this on the Parker site:
http://parkerguns.org/forums/index.php
If you want the definitive book on Parkers, there's only one choice---and that's The Parker Story by Gunther, Mullins, Parker, Price and Cote'. You can purchase this two volume tome through The Double Gun Journal for $295.00 ppd., they are also offering some slightly blemished sets (you'll scratch your head trying to figure out what makes them blems) for $195.00 ppd. Call the DGJ at 800/447-1658.
A really interesting Parker book that's a LOT cheaper is "Parker Guns Shooting Flying and the American Experience". Awfully good work and you'll learn enough to really impress your shooting bud.
Amazon has it:
http://www.amazon.com/Parker-Shooting-Flying-American-Experience/dp/1574326112It also has a lot of really interesting material about other makers, ammunition, shooting, etc. Used from $16.99. 5 star recommendation.
(Now dear readers, don't jump in front of Hammer Guy to buy the used book--he gets "dubs")
The Parker Story is THE book on Parkers....the rest are either outdated, incorrect, or the authors idea of how to stroke himself in public without being arrested.
The Parker Story is THE book on Parkers....the rest are either outdated, incorrect, or the authors idea of how to stroke himself in public without being arrested.
Of course it is, Greg. But not everyone is willing to plunk down that amount of change for a book. I did and find it invaluable. But I also have every book published on Parkers. I liked all of them. But then, I'm a fanatical Parker fan.
A really interesting Parker book that's a LOT cheaper is "Parker Guns Shooting Flying and the American Experience".
Thanks for the feedback. How about Ed Muderlak's other book; Old Reliable? Or the book; Parker: America's Finest Shotgun?
The best conversation opener with a Parker guy is "Do you think you'll ever upgrade to an L.C. Smith?"
It works the other way around and you can substitute Fox in there as well.
Welcome to America
I kinda wore that out with my references to London Best Guns. And, I never think it's too wise to antagonize a guy with a shotgun - and holder of the GPS. ;-)
HammerGuy - I sent you a PM at 4:30 this morning. Cheers
I own ALL the Parker books. A good read and great first Parker book is Ed Muderlak's OLD RELIABLE.
Yes, THE PARKER STORY is the reference book Parker shotguns and the company and men that made them. It is however not a quick read. If you read OLD RELIABLE you will probably want to read more and more and...
Mark
You can start with any of the lesser books on Parkers but if you are a serious Parker person you will eventually graduate to The Parker Story. It is an irreplacable reference to all things Parker. The authors were very careful not to indicate anything in The Parker Story is 'absolute' or the 'last word' because they knew that new information and data surfaces from time to time but the information in The Parker Story is what was known at the time of publication.
I own them all, too, but I seldom touch any but the Parker Story.
As noted above, sooner or later you'll need TPS so you might as well start with it.
"Parker Gun Identification & Serialization" is a very handy book to have. It has most of the Parker serial numbers listed along with fundamental configuration of each gun when it left the factory. It also has a section on identifying different era and grade Parkers.
Best,
Mike
The only Parker book I have is "Parker: American's Finest Shotgun" by Peter H. Johnson. While far from being the definitive Parker reference, it can be bought a whole lot cheaper than the others, and will certainly give you enough information to impress your Parker pal.
Peter Johnson's book is like a very rough first draft written over 50 years ago. It is so full of incorrect information and ideas as to be only interesting as a Parker historical artifact. Similarly Larry Baer's Parker books, which do show some great Parker Bros. guns, are getting very out of date.
Ed's books are good reads, but are written like the lawyer he was. He presents all the facts to support his Parkercentric position and flat ignores all other facts. They are the best books to read.
The Parker Story is the diffinitive work. Anyone really interested in Parker Bros. guns needs a set, along with the several erata sheets.
From everything I've heard the serialization book is so full of transcription errors I've never purchased a copy.
Thanks for all the feedback.
Being a London Best guy, I have some moral opposition to the Parker tome.
I did however, order a couple others that I'll read and then hide behind some grouse fans or decoys in the library. ;-)
Thanks again!
Being a London Best guy, I have some moral opposition to the Parker tome.
I did however, order a couple others that I'll read and then hide behind some grouse fans or decoys in the library. ;-)
LOL, Hammerguy....
Enjoy your stroll down memory lane with the books you have ordered. I think if you'll keep American guns in context with the times and culture they were made in you'll come to appreciate them more for what they are: just good, honest guns made to withstand just about anything Joe Blow would shove into them. At the same time, on request of a buyer, the guns could be made with all the fit and finish of a fine London gun. Few were though. Keep us updated on your new journey, Hammerguy.
Gosh, I'm just the opposite. I have and shoot a good selection of London guns and am looking for more. However, my main collecting and research interests are in Parkers. Regardless of these opposite interests, I am pretty heavily invested in British gun books as well as Parker books.
The Parker Story is a must for any Parker collector, in my humble opinion
Peter Johnson's book is like a very rough first draft written over 50 years ago. It is so full of incorrect information and ideas as to be only interesting as a Parker historical artifact.
Hey! I have an artifact! Cool!
Thanks for all the feedback.
Being a London Best guy, I have some moral opposition to the Parker tome.
I did however, order a couple others that I'll read and then hide behind some grouse fans or decoys in the library. ;-)
Thanks again!
Have it your way... you're only cheating yourself.
Conversely, I have yet to break down and buy a "London Best" book and very likely never will.
Gosh, I'm just the opposite. I have and shoot a good selection of London guns and am looking for more. However, my main collecting and research interests are in Parkers. Regardless of these opposite interests, I am pretty heavily invested in British gun books as well as Parker books.
It's this diversity, and willingness to share, that seems to make this forum so fun and valuable.