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Posted By: nek69 robust 238 - 09/30/11 08:56 PM
I need help with a robust No26-E 16ga. that I own. If possible, I would like to know the year of manufacture of this shotgun. The number of the shotgun is 133383. Here are some pictures. Any help will be much appreciated.


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Posted By: Rockdoc Re: robust 238 - 09/30/11 09:37 PM
Very nice Robust, with ejectors no less. I think it's choked modified and full and has standard proofs. I don't know when it was made, but others on the forum might be able to help. Wish I could find something like that here, and had the $$$ to buy it when I did.
Steve
Posted By: ed good Re: robust 238 - 10/01/11 12:28 AM
69: as i recall, i read some where that the robust model number is also the year of manufacture. so, a model 26 was made in 1926? nice looking gun. wee wee...
Posted By: ed good Re: robust 238 - 10/01/11 12:38 AM
well, not exactly right. seems like the model numbers are linear by year... the first ones were made in 1913. that was the model 1. so, a model 26 was made in: 1913, plus 25, equals 1938?

see: http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=259500 for more about robust guns.
Posted By: L. Brown Re: robust 238 - 10/02/11 12:20 PM
Has to be post-1924. That's when "normal" was added to the French proofmarks. Would also have to be after France joined the CIP, because the 850 kilos is the required standard CIP proof pressure. Prior to that, St. Etienne guns carried a different proof pressure mark: crossed palms enclosing a crown, on the underside of each barrel forward of the flats. But I don't know when France adopted the CIP rules, although I think it was post-WWII. The visible "step", where barrels meet the monobloc, indicate that it's not one of the last Robusts, because those guns no longer had the "stepped" barrels.

Nice gun, and appears to be in unusually good condition.
Posted By: Mike A. Re: robust 238 - 10/03/11 02:42 AM
What a nice gun; just enough of everything: triggers, barrels, "bore size," scrolls, and all.
Posted By: Rockdoc Re: robust 238 - 10/03/11 03:08 AM
It's hard to believe that the Robust is a French hardware store gun.
Steve
Posted By: ed good Re: robust 238 - 10/03/11 03:10 AM
rock: if like the way their hardware store guns look, you should check out the gal at the cash register. ou la la...chassie la femme!
Posted By: L. Brown Re: robust 238 - 10/03/11 11:47 AM
In terms of quantity produced, the Robust is certainly the equivalent of the Stevens 311. However, in terms of quality, that Frenchie is way out in front.
Posted By: SDH-MT Re: robust 238 - 10/03/11 05:37 PM
Nice gun... my next Fine Gunmaking column will be about a Manufrance Robust.
Posted By: JayCee Re: robust 238 - 10/04/11 12:42 PM
Hello Nek,

Surely Manufrance can tell you more about your very nice Robust.

JC
Posted By: L. Brown Re: robust 238 - 10/04/11 01:03 PM
Looks like they're making Robusts again . . . maybe. The text indicates that they're designed and assembled in the Manufrance shop. Suppose the parts, or at least some of them, may be made elsewhere.
Posted By: Rockdoc Re: robust 238 - 10/04/11 01:18 PM
There were so many things I liked about the Robust (Costo) that I had. It was a 12 gauge with 27" barrels and yet only weighed 6.5 lbs. It had 2.75" chambers and wasn't fussy about ammo. It had a large trigger guard with enough space between the triggers so I could wear gloves and still shoot it. The stock, while rather plain grained, had very nice fiddleback. It also had enough cast-off that I couldn't hit chit with it! I sold it to another board member several years ago (don't worry jOe I paid Dave) and I'm hoping that it's been a good gun for him.
Steve
Posted By: WildCattle Re: robust 238 - 10/04/11 03:27 PM
1931. That's the year with dual grades 26E and 238.
The grades numbering system changed that year.
The 26E cost 1150FF in 1930 or about the same as a cookstove or a sewing machine.
A #6 Ideal cost 2000FF without ejectors.
That's a good one...
M-
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