I try to never buy a gun that I don't know a lot about including a fairly detailed study of market value... well I was at a very small auction after a rifle and a Win 21 in 16 came up so I started bidding and was happily surprised when the bidding ended and I won at what I thought was reasonable for a 12 gauge. Hope I was not wrong.

I bought a book by Ned Schwing called "Winchesters Finest: The Model 21" Seems decent but is 20 years old. Is there any other/ better resources on the 21? I have not even begun to dig through the DGJ articles.

I think its an early Standard grade, DT, SF, 28" Mod/Full. Have not received it yet to look at all of the stampings to age but the serial is 58xx.

Any resource info, greatly appreciated.

So is it a 12 or a 16?
JR

its a 16...

Four years ago Stephen Cobb had one configured exactly as yours. He had $3600 on it. Very good condition, stock with a correct refinish. I have regretted not buying it every time I have thought of the gun.

Schwing is the most information I have. There is a Model 21 BBS, or at least there used to be.

Best,

Mike

These may help/

http://www.model21shotgun.com/

http://bluepike.tripod.com/index.htm

The board Mike is speaking of, I believe, is http://www.model21shotgun.com/.

I have a Model 21 in 16ga. with a s/n of 68xx. It letters to Nov. 38. My understanding is there is no reliable link from s/n to production date. A Cody letter is the best information, to my knowledge. Pictures would be nice.

Model 21s were not assembled in consecutive serial # order.

The Board(Forum) referenced is very much in existance and takes no advertizing or other revenue from anyone.
http://www.model21shotgun.com/
We now have the advanatge of several members with actual experience with Winchester and the Custom Shop including Pauline Muerrle, the last Winchester engraver and whose father was a Winchester employee(foreman I believe) for many many years.
We do not have the Cody records but if you Register and Post pictures of your Model 21 when it arrives, we will attempt to give an honest evaluation and answer your questions.
The Board is really a labor of love.
Pauline is a great assest.-Dick

Thanks all I will look into the forum and post pics when it arrives. Appreciate the help.

I have just been given a Winchester model 21 20-bore Grand American to sell. No market for it here in UK and I have no idea as to value - it has a set of 28" and a set of 26" barrels and forends for each set. Nice wood, pistol grip stock, gold parrots or whatever stuck on the sides. any idea as to value or where to get shot of it?

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/conten...erarchyId=11929

http://daverifflegunsales.com.phtemp.com/21.htm

http://www.firinglineonline.com/detail.php?cat=1&id=496

Cody Firearms Museum in Cody Wyoming has the Winchester records and will for a fee check the factory records under that serial number.

Best,

Mike

I had a similar experience, ASavageFox. Last fall I went to a small gun show and a guy had a Model 21- cased and he had a sign saying it was a 12 gauge. I didn't really pay that much attention to the sign, just the $3500.00 he had marked on it. It was a nice gun but was a bit too expensive for the crowd. By the time I was getting ready to leave, he had it marked down to $3200.00 so I bought it. I noticed it was a twenty gauge when I was handling it, but I didn't really put two and two together that he had it marked as a twelve. I realized the mix up when I got home and saw the sign he left inside the case. The gun was a little too small for the case, so he must have thought it really was a 12. Or maybe he really did know it was a 20. I don't know. I have been back twice to the same show but I haven't run across the guy. No one seems to know who he was. He just came in a sat down at one of the tables and pulled out a few guns, I guess. But I sure got a nice 20 gauge SK/SK Model 21- 20 gauge pretty cheap as far as I am concerned. And in an original old Winchester case that is probably for a 12 gauge. Oh well.

fulfilling the request for pictures...

I think I got really lucky as this thing has some kinda wood on it! That said... its been well used and is in need of a restoration I believe... I am going to shoot it a little and see if I like it enough to have restored or I may just sell it to fund another gun....

I would maintain it as is. It's hard to fine one like that.