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The price tag on my last can of Promo says $124.99 with a date of 3-2018.

Grafs when they had it in stock last month showed $255.99.

That's over 100% in 5 years. Inflation depending on who you believe shows 22-28% over the 5 year time period.

Gentlemen, we are being screwed.

I bought Alliant/Hercules powder for decades before I ever switched to the 'powder trust' and their imported stuff after Alliant's manufacturer induced 'shortage' several years ago.

I've been buying 'Perfect Pattern', NSI primers, and shot made in both Spain and Turkey just to have something to shoot.

To top it off, our club just paid over $17 a box for White Flyers delivered. Another product that has outstripped inflation by a good amount.

Joe Average is about to be priced completely out of this sport.

Shotgun shooters seem to have received the short end of the component stick. I can find plenty of rifle and pistol powders but around here shotgun powders are hard to come by. Vista Outdoors has assembled a monopoly over components which I think is the cause of availability issues. Monopolies are bad. The foreign ammo makers have managed to find a foothold here and they are getting my bumwad dollars. In regards to inflation, without getting political, it’s debasement of the currency caused by reckless and feckless spending.

I'd ad Recobs to the "trusted" list of places that stock and sell a lot of components.

FYI Gee-Whiz stuff here.

I did an Argentina dove shoot last June. The outfitter was telling us they were being rationed on 12 & 20ga ammo and couldn't get 28 or .410. When asked why they were having a shortage. The answer was that 80% of the powder produced in Argentina was being exported to America. I don't know the whole story, but I do believe what I was told.

The public shooting park I go to around here is now charging $40.00 for a round of 100 sporting clays & if you have to buy ammo there it's $15.00 a box. That makes it a $100.00 per round-- pretty expensive in my book. Thankfully I don't have to buy ammo from them, but I wouldn't be willing to pay this kind of cash to shoot some clay birds.

I previously lived in NJ where my club charged $5/rd of trap, skeet or 5 stand. They could keep costs down because they bought targets by the trailer load. When most of the members are blue color type guys they find a way to keep it affordable. Then I moved to south Florida. There are some fantastic shotgun ranges in the general area but still better than an hours ride north or south where I live. Prices to shoot are much higher here. The blue color retiree here is pretty much priced out. If it's difficult for me how will this activity attract young people? I think clay shooting is going to become an exclusive activity for the wealthy like in Europe. There are many reasons for this, inflation, dollar losing reserve currency status, urban sprawl, politics, etc. One of my old friends said it's a good time to be old. Maby he was right!

I'm not just a shotgun shooter and talking to other handgun and rifle shooters, primer prices are as high or higher than shotgun primers. Powder seems to about the same, bullets and brass seems to be higher than pre-Covid as well. Using 9mm as a benchmark, 50 rounds of factory FMJ is about $2 more per 50 than pre-Covid.

I expect when things settle down, if they ever do, most American made components aren't going to get much cheaper than now. American primers will probably end up between $60-$70 per thousand for rifle, pistol & shotgun.

I'm expecting shortages late spring to early summer of next year due to the election. Maybe not so much for the shotgun sports, but definitely the more common rifle & pistol calibers and related reloading components

Our nearest clay shoot has charged £18 for 50 birds at Sporting Clays for a long while.

I went to a different club last Sunday and it was slightly more expensive at £25 for 60 birds.

If I only had to pay for the clays I succeed in breaking in mid-air I would save quite a bit of money!

Actually, if anyone should be horse-whipped, it is the anti-gun senile idiot who calls inflation Bidenomics, and also recently handed Iran 6 billion dollars.. That is permitting them to provide a lot more money to Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorists. Trump wiped out ISIS in short order and had Iran on the brink of collapse. Like it or not, demands for ammunition for large military actions ends up creating shortages and higher prices for civilian ammo and reloading components. Supplying ammo to support Ukraine isn't helping either. At least Obama only sent them MRE's and blankets when Russia invaded Crimea.

I understand that it is very difficult for some folks to connect the dots...

"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!"