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This is obviously Connecticut Shotgun. So, I am just wondering, where are they getting all the Model 21 barrels that they have for sale on Guns America? Are they new barrels that they are manufacturing or are they barrels that they have taken off of old Model 21s?

They would have to be fitted, Jimmy. C'mon man, you knew that.
JR

I know. But a guy can get his hopes up, can't he?

Stan, are you not happy with people giving money, to the government, in hopes of becoming the highest tax rate, tax payer. Half the ticket Monet goes directly to the lottery, the rest goes to the jackpot. Hit the big game and your 50% of the grand prize total, taken as a single payment, becomes 37% Federal, .9% Med.tax, state tax of 7-9% in most states, city or local income taxes as well. So you 50% share becomes a windfall tax for the government of almost 50% of your check. Then spend any money and pay 5-9% sales taxes, personal property taxes on large purchases, real estate taxes and on and on goes the tax bill. So the government gets 75+% of all lottery money one way or another. Worse will be the plague of people wanting money for their “charity” or friends and family wanting their share as well.

With that tax bill the only people I know who can afford to win the lottery are farmers. They can lose money, and still drive new pickups, for awhile . May the rains be gentle and winds fair my friend.

I would bet CSMC is having bbls made for them.


JOhn
Arrieta

It's the price of cheap food for Americans. People who bich about food prices should have to shop for their groceries in other countries where there are no "subsidies". Without the current "subsidies" many farmers would go broke, go out of business, their farmland would be sold, and corporate farms would likely buy up the land and, with drastically fewer farms (of much larger size) growing your food, they could likely reach the size necessary to manipulate production in order to control/manipulate the markets. This would bring extreme prices for food, or shortages of the same. Is that what you want in place of piecemeal, partial price protection for farmers? Because, that's the alternative.

Another relevant point .......... when a unilateral embargo of American agricultural commodities can be used by the Feds to bring another nation to it's knees, and the commodities market crashes for farmers who grow/own those commodities, should not that same government provide something in return to the farmers, such as price protections? This has been done twice in my lifetime of farming, and the markets crashed causing thousands of farms to go broke. When commodity prices are good there are no PLC "subsidies" paid out. No one mentions that though, even though that's the price of a stable, reasonably priced food supply.

Next time you bich about "subsidies" don't do it with your mouth full.

At which you continually fail. Small wonder that you're lonesome. Losers are often that.

You better get a lot better at "spinning" the facts if you want to be a player in this discussion. You either don't care what the truth is or you hope I don't know what it is.

Here it is. The breakdown on how much Farm Bill money goes to support our cheap food. The blue part of the pie is for welfare "food stamp" programs. About another 7% goes to fund CRP programs that non-farmer hunters rave over. Most of the rest goes to help keep ingrates like you, and even those DO who understand, have cheap food.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/farm-economy/farm-commodity-policy/farm-bill-spending/

"The free market approach would be to eliminate the subsidies altogether, and let the farms compete on their own."

Right. Competing with other farms is not a problem. I'd welcome that. We'd ALL welcome that. What we SHOULDN''T have to compete with is the government, when they decide to use commodities as a political tool against other countries. Ya' know ....... (unilateral) em-bar-goes?