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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/722226501Not my rifle. In the post is the following comment; " The serial number puts it in the low number range which is considered to be too brittle to stand up to the pressures generated by modern 30-06 rounds, so it is not recommended to be fired with high pressure ammunition." The question is if the above is a valid statement and I am one who agrees, as others on the forum would also. (hoping you all have super good shooting glasses), what would you do with it? Mind you the price is ~$6600. Would anyone think a person could swap out the action for a later, more safe, version without seriously degrading the rifle. If you can't do that what would you do with it or I think it would be a very expensive wall hanger.
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What, you don't have another 30-06 to use in the field?
My problem lies in reconciling my gross habits with my net income. - Errol Flynn
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This is the ole low number high number discussion. The rifle in question is at Ron Peterson's in Albuquerque, NM. I have looked at and handled the rifle and it is a nice example. If I could afford it, would I shoot it? Probably not. Would I buy it and change out the action so I could use it? No. I would shoot it as is before doing that.
I figure the statement is a legal CYA one. I also note that it doesn't say don't shoot it, just don't use "modern" "high pressure" ammunition. Thaine
Just my .02 and I have no issue with shooting low number Springfields nor using them for the occasional hunt. Yes I wear good shooting glasses, but then I wear them with all guns.
It ain't ignorance that does the most damage, it's knowing so derned much that ain't so! J. Billings
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I think the question is more could the action be replaced with a later 1903 Springfield action? I do not know enough about the differences in the actual shape of the 1903 actions. Could a later one drop in?
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"Could a later one drop in?"
I don't see why you couldn't. There are no differences between a 1916 production receiver and a 1918 (800000+ serial#) receiver that I can find in any references such as Brophy etc. As too minor dimensional differences between two such actions, you may not know until you have the replacement in hand. Have the bluing matched and you would supposedly have a safe for modern high pressure ammunition Springfield. Since I don't own a Griffin rifle, someone else will have to address if he made any alterations to the receiver itself.
Would it degrade the rifle? IMHO yes, but then who would know 10 years from now? I just can't see or justify doing it in my mind. But if someone wanted to spend the $ for it and do it, who am I or we to say what they can do with their possession. Thaine
It ain't ignorance that does the most damage, it's knowing so derned much that ain't so! J. Billings
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No mention of the G&H number. What's with that?
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Thanks Thaine. Its just an interesting thought. I do not believe anyone will do it since the current asking price is excessive, iMO
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That looks like a pre-G&H SR Griffin to me. If so, it wouldn't have a G&H number. Also, the early G&H rifles marked in a banner on the floor plate were unnumbered.
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Since there are no special markings on the action, I can't see how changing it out would "degrade" the gun? It seems to me if a person did so, and did the work properly, then nobody would even know it was done. And a high number action certainly wouldn't degrade the gun's value. I'd expect it would increase it's value.
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I certainly agree with you Vall.
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